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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 5932209" data-attributes="member: 762">Depends, in a grim and gritty game yes. In D&D where you have decent HP (even at first level) and where there's a cleric doing everything he can to make sure you don't go down? maybe not.If you like grim and gritty - limit the healing magic and there you go.Regardless though, you're stating the situation completely wrong. there were 6 kobolds (and about 4 rats at the time) and the party had 4 people, I never said the slayer was surrounded on every side by kobolds.It's not "for some reason," it's that HPs are an abstract construct and the Slayer theme plays with that more than some others. It's a minor benefit that can KO a minor (as in really minor) monster or cause annoyance to a larger one.Not everyone is comfortable with that - and I think the designers of 5e realize this which is why this is in the form of an add on theme. Don't like it? Don't use it!After having fought 6 kobolds and a bunch of 1 HP rats, 2 characters nearly died - that's dangerous. It was dangerous enough that when they saw 30 kobolds the group did not even think for a moment that they had any chance at all (and they didn't, it would have been a TPK 99.9% of the time).  As i just stated above, yes, yes they are. But aside from that, short of rats these are the weakest monsters you can get (at least in their "basic" form), there is nothing wrong with them being cannon fodder. Not true, automatic damage works on minions just fine. I believe the 4e 1st level fighter has an identical power btw (reaping strike I believe) - and yes I liked that one too.It's quite obvious you like your D&D a bit less abstract, that's fine, and it looks like it will be supported, but it is far from "the one true way."It's not a unique ability, anyone can take the theme if they want. And wizards can do it too, in the form of magic missle.It's the same concept as the rogue's take 10 ability - the slayer is so focused on damage that they always do at least some -  not enough to kill in one blow (unless the monster is truly weak), but some. If you are completely uncomfortable with this abstract concept you have 2 choices 1) don't allow the slayer theme or anything like it (a perfectly valid choice) or 2) treat it as a necrotic aura, a gift from the god of death, if you will, and problem solved.Only the mook kobolds have 2 HPs and frankly - they don't have a chance, not one on one, that's the whole point!Ear, other ear, nose, poke in the eye, wear it down - it's an endless descriptive list really. But the real point is you are focusing way too much on hit vs. miss. This is more an ongoing damage effect (and not even a particularly large one). But again, if you don't like it, don't use it.</blockquote>

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