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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 5932775" data-attributes="member: 95493">I can't believe I am agreeing with you of all people but: THIS.Again, if the kobold had 1/3 or 1/4 a PC's starting HP then I wouldn't  have this issue at all. But if they have 2 HP and the party has 20 then  they have too few. They aren't rats, they are humanoids afterall.@<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/members/the-jester.html" target="_blank">the Jester</a> this is what I am saying. I'm not being absolute here. I am saying that even the basics of the math don't make sense.@<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/members/kamikaze-midget.html" target="_blank">Kamikaze Midget</a> ... "Kobolds Are Supposed To Be Pathetic Combatants" okay I just object to HOW pathetic.See above. 3e raised the HP, 4e raised them more. The problem is that only in 5e are we dealing with PCs at 3e and 4e level HP when the kobolds have 1d4 level.Which is why I said the minions had 1HP and the non-minions had 27. The level 1 SKIRMISHER kobold had 27 HP. The level 2 dragonshield (which I didn't post about) had 36.A. I do keep saying on a miss, because the slayer is the only one who hits a miss. No other players hit on a miss. The wizard does damage with a spell on a miss, but that is an area effect - WHICH HAS AN EXPLANATION. Even magic missile doesn't deal damage on a miss.B. Are you seriously saying all first level PCs should be Green Arrow accurate? He is basically a meta-human in DC terms given his accuracy. This would be a less important thing LATER but at first level it is just too strong. Even if we were talking that the fighter did 1 HP on a miss per level that would make more sense then them miraculously dealing 3 damage every single time ... on a miss.As long as one is founded in reality and one isn't I don't have a problem with the words.I do have a problem when the explanations are set in both being magic but one being a "martial" power source.Also, if it is a "mythic" feat then I certainly don't expect them to do it over and over and over, every time they miss an opponent. Even robin hood (or green arrow) misses every once in a while. With this ability the slayer never can.But we aren't talking about potential or future strength. The fighter can conceivably increase his STR (though not too far in 5e) and will likely get new tricks to hit more accurately and for more damage later on. Considering those will be his real talent later I think the discussion should really deal only with the basic level ability at first level.I haven't seen reasons, let alone good ones, for this particular class feature. I have the explanation only, but no reasoning for the explanation. As they do well to explain any number of other aspects I would appreciate them putting some effort into explaining something that makes no sense given the outlined structure put forth by Mearls about how HP work in 5e. And I don't. Clearly it is a matter of opinion then and not fact.When I see scores that show that no PCs die (unless something went terribly wrong) when killing droves of kobolds, goblins and ogres then I see a problem. I report that problem to WotC and to you. It may be a matter of preference that some people dislike PCs dying at first level or enjoy having more HP than kobolds and the rest. However what I see is a matter of balance, threat and difficulty. When the kobolds don't seem to have a chance of ever defeating the party or when I see that the party can kill them on min rolls (or no rolls) then I see a problem. You can tell me that you LIKE it that way and that is fine. You can't tell me that it isn't a problem for those who DON'T. I am clearly not alone in thinking that the kobolds are TOO WEAK if KM thought a thread was necessary to clarify his feelings on the subject.</blockquote>

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