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<blockquote data-quote="Zalgarde" data-source="post: 4272871" data-attributes="member: 67663">2 players were brand new, so when one of them says &quot;I want to use my sly flourish thing&quot;, I had to stop and look it up... as for looking it up in the quick guide it kept sliding off the table and onto the floor if I opened it and set it down, its very glossy and likes to tumble so I just gave up.&nbsp;&nbsp; so yea by the end of the session I had the at will ones down, but I definitely wouldn't say I was familiar on the in's and outs of the encounter ones, and they were most of the way to a new level which means new powers (I assume).&nbsp;&nbsp; And its not that I don't trust them, its that we're all sort of new to this... not that it was any different for 3.x&nbsp; with the perpetual newness of extra supplements brought in what seemed like every other session, but I'm just saying, stopping to read over nitpicks and abilities each time did seem to slow things down every bit as much as 3e, which was kinda lame.And by and large I tried not to take anything for granted because as you said theres a real tendancy to want to treat it like 3e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zalgarde, post: 4272871, member: 67663"] 2 players were brand new, so when one of them says "I want to use my sly flourish thing", I had to stop and look it up... as for looking it up in the quick guide it kept sliding off the table and onto the floor if I opened it and set it down, its very glossy and likes to tumble so I just gave up. so yea by the end of the session I had the at will ones down, but I definitely wouldn't say I was familiar on the in's and outs of the encounter ones, and they were most of the way to a new level which means new powers (I assume). And its not that I don't trust them, its that we're all sort of new to this... not that it was any different for 3.x with the perpetual newness of extra supplements brought in what seemed like every other session, but I'm just saying, stopping to read over nitpicks and abilities each time did seem to slow things down every bit as much as 3e, which was kinda lame. And by and large I tried not to take anything for granted because as you said theres a real tendancy to want to treat it like 3e. [/QUOTE]

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