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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 7366396" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Upon reflection, even CR 15 might be a little too high.</p><p></p><p>The annihilation effect is basically just extra flavour on top of a 1d4 level energy drain. If it was just ordinary energy drain a victim who lost all their levels would be just as dead.</p><p></p><p>So a better comparison would be to an energy-draining monster.</p><p></p><p>Consider the CR 11 <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/devourer.htm" target="_blank">Devourer</a> or the CR 7 <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/spectre.htm" target="_blank">Spectre</a>.</p><p></p><p>The EL table says that four Devourers or 7-9 Spectres that are advanced to their maximum of HD 14 would be an equal threat to the aspect of Khalk'ru's CR 15, but is that so?</p><p></p><p>The devourers can potentially do 8d6+72 damage plus eight energy levels per round with their claw attacks, while the spectres' incorporeal touches can do up to 9d8 plus 18 energy levels per round! On paper the spectres are <strong><em>way</em></strong> nastier.</p><p></p><p>The aspect of Khalk'ru does 2d8+18 plus 1d4 energy levels. A melee combatant with a <em>lifedrinker</em> can easily do worse than that at CR 15.</p><p></p><p>Challenge Rating isn't an exact science, let alone the Encounter Level rules, but I'm growing more confident in thinking CR 15 or lower.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 7366396, member: 57383"] Upon reflection, even CR 15 might be a little too high. The annihilation effect is basically just extra flavour on top of a 1d4 level energy drain. If it was just ordinary energy drain a victim who lost all their levels would be just as dead. So a better comparison would be to an energy-draining monster. Consider the CR 11 [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/devourer.htm"]Devourer[/URL] or the CR 7 [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/spectre.htm"]Spectre[/URL]. The EL table says that four Devourers or 7-9 Spectres that are advanced to their maximum of HD 14 would be an equal threat to the aspect of Khalk'ru's CR 15, but is that so? The devourers can potentially do 8d6+72 damage plus eight energy levels per round with their claw attacks, while the spectres' incorporeal touches can do up to 9d8 plus 18 energy levels per round! On paper the spectres are [B][I]way[/I][/B] nastier. The aspect of Khalk'ru does 2d8+18 plus 1d4 energy levels. A melee combatant with a [I]lifedrinker[/I] can easily do worse than that at CR 15. Challenge Rating isn't an exact science, let alone the Encounter Level rules, but I'm growing more confident in thinking CR 15 or lower. [/QUOTE]
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