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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 9259237" data-attributes="member: 57383">Yeah, let's keep them Aberrations.Don't care for most of the original abilities scores.Firstly, I'd prefer a lower Strength.I have a mental image of them possessing physiques similar to a decadent human nobleman. If, say, a female's Strength 43, then if you reverse-size-increase that down to Medium they're built like a humanoid with Str 19. That seems too burly to me.Also, the AD&amp;D originals don't do that much damage for something so big. A female's tentacles do 1d8 plus constrict 2d6; the male's tentacles are 1d4 plus constrict 1d10. They both can punch for 1d10 (twice), trample for 1d100 and wield normal-damage weapons in their tentacles without any bonuses (e.g. 1d10 for katanas).The fact that their most deadly attack by far, doing roughly ten times the damage, is stepping on things, could indicate they're pretty wimpy, but really heavy!By comparison, an AD&amp;D kraken's boneless limbs are WAY stronger. Its tentacles do 3d6 and its arms do 2d6, with constrict 3d6.Furthermore, the fact the female does the same damage punching, trampling and weapon-wielding suggests it's only her TENTACLES that are more powerful, and the rest of her body may be no stronger than a male, just a lot tougher.I'd rather give them both a Strength similar to a standard 3E Kraken, maybe even a bit lower. Perhaps Str 35 (+12)?This is a creature that mid level parties encountered in an adventure, remember. It's meant to be way too tough for them to defeat conventionally, but it doesn't need to be Challenge 30+ to obliterate them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 9259237, member: 57383"] Yeah, let's keep them Aberrations. Don't care for most of the original abilities scores. Firstly, I'd prefer a lower Strength. I have a mental image of them possessing physiques similar to a decadent human nobleman. If, say, a female's Strength 43, then if you reverse-size-increase that down to Medium they're built like a humanoid with Str 19. That seems too burly to me. Also, the AD&D originals don't do [i]that[/i] much damage for something so big. A female's tentacles do 1d8 plus constrict 2d6; the male's tentacles are 1d4 plus constrict 1d10. They both can punch for 1d10 (twice), trample for 1d100 and wield normal-damage weapons in their tentacles without any bonuses (e.g. 1d10 for katanas). The fact that their most deadly attack by far, doing roughly ten times the damage, is stepping on things, could indicate they're pretty wimpy, but really heavy! By comparison, an AD&D kraken's boneless limbs are WAY stronger. Its tentacles do 3d6 and its arms do 2d6, with constrict 3d6. Furthermore, the fact the female does the same damage punching, trampling and weapon-wielding suggests it's only her TENTACLES that are more powerful, and the rest of her body may be no stronger than a male, just a lot tougher. I'd rather give them both a Strength similar to a standard 3E Kraken, maybe even a bit lower. Perhaps Str 35 (+12)? This is a creature that mid level parties encountered in an adventure, remember. It's meant to be way too tough for them to defeat conventionally, but it doesn't need to be Challenge 30+ to obliterate them. [/QUOTE]

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