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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8625985" data-attributes="member: 23751">Show me where death must happen.  I see combat.  I see rules for death under certain circumstances.  But you know what else I see?  Multiple places in the DMG stating that the rules serve the DM, not the other way around.  Changing a rule and removing death does not turn the game into anything other than another version of D&D, like the 10's of thousands of other versions out there with various house rule combinations.You are when the game of chess says that the rules serve the players, not the other way around and they alter it.  That's a really bad analogy.Most people aren't playing the same game as other people are.  If you put in a fumble chart, you are changing the game the same as the no death folks are.  If you ban Counterspell, you are changing the game the same as the no death folks are.  Are you arguing that people who ban Counterspell or use fumble charts are not playing D&D?  That anyone who doesn't play the game exactly as written isn't playing D&D?  Because if you aren't, then you should also not be saying that people who take death off the table aren't playing D&D.</blockquote>