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<blockquote data-quote="Knightfall" data-source="post: 8341957" data-attributes="member: 2012"><p>Since <em>spiritjaws</em> is an Evocation (Force) effect spell, this section seems to be the most relevant:</p><p></p><p><strong>Effect Spells:</strong> Most effect spells summon or create something and are not subject to <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance" target="_blank">spell resistance</a>. Sometimes, however, <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance" target="_blank">spell resistance</a> applies to effect spells, usually to those that act upon a creature more or less directly, such as <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Web" target="_blank"><em>web</em></a>.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance" target="_blank">Spell resistance</a> can protect a creature from a spell that’s already been cast. Check <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance" target="_blank">spell resistance</a> when the creature is first affected by the spell.</p><p></p><p><em>Check <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance" target="_blank">spell resistance</a> only once for any particular casting of a spell or use of a <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell-Like_Ability" target="_blank">spell-like ability</a>. <u>If <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance" target="_blank">spell resistance</a> fails the first time, it fails each time the creature encounters that same casting of the spell. Likewise, if the <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance" target="_blank">spell resistance</a> succeeds the first time, it always succeeds</u>. If the creature has voluntarily lowered its <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance" target="_blank">spell resistance</a> and is then subjected to a spell, the creature still has a single chance to resist that spell later, when its <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance" target="_blank">spell resistance</a> is up.</em></p><p><span style="color: rgb(247, 218, 100)">— This seems to be the main point of whether or not the spiritjaws can keep attacking the elf or not. The elf's SR succeeded in blocking the spell, so it succeed against that casting every time Caerth tries to direct it at the elf. It doesn't say that an ongoing force effect like <em>spirijaws</em> would be disrupted or destroyed. (KF)</span></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance" target="_blank"><em>Spell resistance</em></a><em> has no effect unless the energy created or released by the spell actually goes to work on the resistant creature’s mind or body. If the spell acts on anything else and the creature is affected as a consequence, no roll is required. Creatures can be harmed by a spell without being directly affected.</em></p><p><span style="color: rgb(247, 218, 100)">— Since the spell didn't actually hit the elf, an SR roll probably wasn't required yet. The same thing for Tarrak. But, to speed up pbp play, it's probably better to roll it even before it hits. And since Caerth beat Tarrak's SR, the <em>spiritjaws</em> will continue to attack the ghast lord until it either hits or Caerth sends it against a different foe. (KF)</span></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance" target="_blank">Spell resistance</a> does not apply if an effect fools the creature’s senses or reveals something about the creature.</p><p></p><p>Magic actually has to be working for <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance" target="_blank">spell resistance</a> to apply. Spells that have instantaneous durations but lasting results aren’t subject to <a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance" target="_blank">spell resistance</a> unless the resistant creature is exposed to the spell the instant it is cast.</p><p></p><p>When in doubt about whether a spell’s effect is direct or indirect, consider the spell’s school:</p><p></p><p><strong>Evocation:</strong> If an evocation spell deals damage to the creature, it has a direct effect. If the spell damages something else, it has an indirect effect.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Knightfall, post: 8341957, member: 2012"] Since [I]spiritjaws[/I] is an Evocation (Force) effect spell, this section seems to be the most relevant: [B]Effect Spells:[/B] Most effect spells summon or create something and are not subject to [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance']spell resistance[/URL]. Sometimes, however, [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance']spell resistance[/URL] applies to effect spells, usually to those that act upon a creature more or less directly, such as [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Web'][I]web[/I][/URL]. [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance']Spell resistance[/URL] can protect a creature from a spell that’s already been cast. Check [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance']spell resistance[/URL] when the creature is first affected by the spell. [I]Check [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance']spell resistance[/URL] only once for any particular casting of a spell or use of a [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell-Like_Ability']spell-like ability[/URL]. [U]If [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance']spell resistance[/URL] fails the first time, it fails each time the creature encounters that same casting of the spell. Likewise, if the [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance']spell resistance[/URL] succeeds the first time, it always succeeds[/U]. If the creature has voluntarily lowered its [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance']spell resistance[/URL] and is then subjected to a spell, the creature still has a single chance to resist that spell later, when its [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance']spell resistance[/URL] is up.[/I] [COLOR=rgb(247, 218, 100)]— This seems to be the main point of whether or not the spiritjaws can keep attacking the elf or not. The elf's SR succeeded in blocking the spell, so it succeed against that casting every time Caerth tries to direct it at the elf. It doesn't say that an ongoing force effect like [I]spirijaws[/I] would be disrupted or destroyed. (KF)[/COLOR] [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance'][I]Spell resistance[/I][/URL][I] has no effect unless the energy created or released by the spell actually goes to work on the resistant creature’s mind or body. If the spell acts on anything else and the creature is affected as a consequence, no roll is required. Creatures can be harmed by a spell without being directly affected.[/I] [COLOR=rgb(247, 218, 100)]— Since the spell didn't actually hit the elf, an SR roll probably wasn't required yet. The same thing for Tarrak. But, to speed up pbp play, it's probably better to roll it even before it hits. And since Caerth beat Tarrak's SR, the [I]spiritjaws[/I] will continue to attack the ghast lord until it either hits or Caerth sends it against a different foe. (KF)[/COLOR] [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance']Spell resistance[/URL] does not apply if an effect fools the creature’s senses or reveals something about the creature. Magic actually has to be working for [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance']spell resistance[/URL] to apply. Spells that have instantaneous durations but lasting results aren’t subject to [URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Spell_Resistance']spell resistance[/URL] unless the resistant creature is exposed to the spell the instant it is cast. When in doubt about whether a spell’s effect is direct or indirect, consider the spell’s school: [B]Evocation:[/B] If an evocation spell deals damage to the creature, it has a direct effect. If the spell damages something else, it has an indirect effect. [/QUOTE]
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