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<blockquote data-quote="Ferghis" data-source="post: 5992859" data-attributes="member: 40483">8These are numbers that only really have traction on the charop boards. Actual gameplay has a very different yardstick: actual utility and fun in a game. If you drop all the time, you force your allies to keep picking you up, which is a drag on the party resources. Nobody is disputing your math here: we're just saying that it's a sacrifice worth making. 6 surges for a melee character with terrible defenses is horrible at mid paragon. I would not only move some points into Dex, I would also take the Improved defenses, at the very least. You might be able to get away without taking Resilient Focus, but I'm really not sure. At paragon, DMs start hitting PCs with quite a few action-denial effects, which will put a serious dent in you real-life &quot;DPR.&quot;And if you want your numbers to correspond a bit more to a real encounter, I suggest pitting them against an enemy of level 16 who grants CA. Those Oh, I didn't understand that. If you're taking Icy Heart, screw Weapon Focus. Take Lethal Hunter.I understood you. The reaver attack does damage to every creature adjacent to the target (except you). So if, for example, you are flanking the target with the defender, the reaver power will damage the defender. And you add all your bonus damage to that damage.Again, tactics are heavily ally-dependent. If you have a sigil carver defender, you may want to stick next to your defender.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ferghis, post: 5992859, member: 40483"] 8These are numbers that only really have traction on the charop boards. Actual gameplay has a very different yardstick: actual utility and fun in a game. If you drop all the time, you force your allies to keep picking you up, which is a drag on the party resources. Nobody is disputing your math here: we're just saying that it's a sacrifice worth making. 6 surges for a melee character with terrible defenses is horrible at mid paragon. I would not only move some points into Dex, I would also take the Improved defenses, at the very least. You might be able to get away without taking Resilient Focus, but I'm really not sure. At paragon, DMs start hitting PCs with quite a few action-denial effects, which will put a serious dent in you real-life "DPR." And if you want your numbers to correspond a bit more to a real encounter, I suggest pitting them against an enemy of level 16 who grants CA. Those Oh, I didn't understand that. If you're taking Icy Heart, screw Weapon Focus. Take Lethal Hunter. I understood you. The reaver attack does damage to every creature adjacent to the target (except you). So if, for example, you are flanking the target with the defender, the reaver power will damage the defender. And you add all your bonus damage to that damage. Again, tactics are heavily ally-dependent. If you have a sigil carver defender, you may want to stick next to your defender. [/QUOTE]

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