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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Libramarian" data-source="post: 5918618" data-attributes="member: 6688858">Sorry, I grabbed part of your quote and went off on a pet peeve of mine without adequately explaining it and it seemed more directed at you personally than I meant.Basically the use of Gamism to mean "non-simulationism" rankles me, because I feel that it makes this idea appear more substantial than it is. It's not grounded in any sort of theory about what makes games more fun, it's just like a superficial suspicion of simulationist mechanics.However if you truly feel like abstract mechanics have some sort of aesthetic value, analogous to Abstract Expressionist art, then that would be something different. That's pretty funky but OK. You should come up with a name other than Gamism for this line of thought though.</blockquote>