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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5911012" data-attributes="member: 92511">As I addressed them, as separate points. Again, I don't see how or why what I wrote was &quot;insulting.&quot; But I apologize for it nonetheless. My intent was not to insult anyone.Pretty much all of them. But, again, I didn't come here to argue with anyone. So, sorry for insulting you or presenting, what you feel to be, a &quot;strawman.&quot;Yeah...I read it...read it again..paid attention to the boldy bits...and I'm still at a loss. Just obtuse, I suppose.O...K...? I don't think I was saying that...I was trying to say, I think (and, admittedly, I didn't go back and check), that allowing damage-dealing cantrips that could be done at will was not a way to make one's wizard a worthy contributor or more &quot;magicky&quot; than others.Well then, again,...I apologize. It was not the intent to insult...merely disagree with what I had read, throughout the thread, that the idea of &quot;damage dealing cantrips...at will&quot;...was it in the original L&amp;L post?...as being something that a wizard &quot;needs&quot; to have to be more &quot;magicky.&quot;As my previous post has ascribed, for all of ENworld to see, Defcon1 and I are in agreement. The option should be there, for those that want their mages that have that, to cast &quot;at will&quot; damage-dealing cantrips all day. I, for one, am not one of those people who feels that necessary for a wizard character...hence, not something I feel the &quot;rules&quot; need to allow or stipulate. The options, though, I have no problem with being there.I MUCH prefer Minigiant's portrayal of a wizard who uses their cantrips to &quot;appear&quot; magical to those around him/make his life easier...out of combat.OR, as I presented, a wizard who uses an array of &quot;explorative&quot; and &quot;interactive&quot; magics/spells OR SKILLS to make themselves &quot;useful&quot; AND magicky at the same time...without a flurry of darts or crossbow bolts.I don't believe I have or intentionally entered into any &quot;argument&quot; here...nor, from what I've seen/received, insulted anyone but you. And for that, again, I apologize.--SD</blockquote>

[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5911012, member: 92511"] As I addressed them, as separate points. Again, I don't see how or why what I wrote was "insulting." But I apologize for it nonetheless. My intent was not to insult anyone. Pretty much all of them. But, again, I didn't come here to argue with anyone. So, sorry for insulting you or presenting, what you feel to be, a "strawman." Yeah...I read it...read it again..paid attention to the boldy bits...and I'm still at a loss. Just obtuse, I suppose. O...K...? I don't think I was saying that...I was [I]trying[/I] to say, I [I]think[/I] (and, admittedly, I didn't go back and check), that allowing damage-dealing cantrips that could be done at will was not a way to make one's wizard a worthy contributor or more "magicky" than others. Well then, again,...I apologize. It was not the intent to insult...merely disagree with what I had read, throughout the thread, that the idea of "damage dealing cantrips...at will"...was it in the original L&L post?...as being something that a wizard "needs" to have to be more "magicky." As my previous post has ascribed, for all of ENworld to see, Defcon1 and I are in agreement. The option should be there, for those that want their mages that have that, to cast "at will" damage-dealing cantrips all day. I, for one, am not one of those people who feels that necessary for a wizard character...hence, not something I feel the "rules" need to allow or stipulate. The options, though, I have no problem with being there. I MUCH prefer Minigiant's portrayal of a wizard who uses their cantrips to "appear" magical to those around him/make his life easier...out of combat. OR, as I presented, a wizard who uses an array of "explorative" and "interactive" magics/spells OR SKILLS to make themselves "useful" AND magicky at the same time...without a flurry of darts or crossbow bolts. I don't believe I have or intentionally entered into any "argument" here...nor, from what I've seen/received, insulted anyone but you. And for that, again, I apologize. --SD [/QUOTE]

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