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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 5912874" data-attributes="member: 6688277">I see, however I did say that adjustments could be made to the existing system. The basic core was user-friendly to have it being adjusted. So I was specifically speaking options with the PHB or the DMG but house rules as well.   True, this grew from experience, setting and design. The Racial Handbooks of 2E helped with this a lot. And If I remember correctly the Gazetteer series did provide a thematic storyline for the races as well. Dragonlance too had a handbook. Can't really comment on FR, Eberron or Dark Sun as I did not invest time into those settings. Furthermore the system did not preclude the DM designing thematic or cosmological relationships between differing entities/races.  Certainly 4E took all this straight out the box which is great for some, but I was not debating that initially. My initial comment was the older editions could essentially be manipulated to suit any style of play (whether they be options from Books, Supplements, Magazines or Houserules) and from what you mentioned up until this point I see nothing that precludes that. (Design and integrate).  Whole-heartedly agree with this point. Many proposed systems (from the publishers and from the fans) have come to the fore to be used in conjunction or in place of the D&D health/damage system but have failed to capture what some other non-D&D systems have done so much better. So yes, I concede D&D fell short here.</blockquote>

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