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<blockquote data-quote="Lord_Blacksteel" data-source="post: 6306291" data-attributes="member: 53082"><p>We'll have to see the number and type of adventures they produce once the game is launched. I think that will drive sales more than the relative cost of the books. Campaign settings may also become a bigger part of sales, especially if they are well supported lines and not just a book or two each. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Beyond the previously mentioned 3E SRD which did not appear to have hurt sales then, Paizo does the same thing with Pathfinder's rules and it does not seem to have hurt them either. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They were hardly obscure. It's a web page, just like this one, and the news of it was all over the place, even among the players I knew who didn't hang out on messageboards and the like. There were alternate versions and hyperlinked PDFs available for cheap and free all through 3E's time in the spotlight. I think the main difference between now and 14 years ago is that a) back then a web page or a PDF was not really considered a substitute for a "real" rulebook and b) PDF's are a lot easier to use at the table now with tablets and smartphones becoming a common thing. I think the interest in owning a physical book is still strong among a lot of tabletop gamers so this won't be as big of a deal as it could be. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it may be a time-shifting impact more than a total sales impact. A lot of the gamers I know use the Pathfinder online references as a supplement to their books (looking stuff up when the book is not in-hand) or as a placeholder until they can afford the book. It's a great tool for convincing people to spend money though. "We're playing D&D tonight - Oh I don't have the new book, can I borrow someone's? - Here, use the Basic PDF" and then assuming things go well you're likely to sell a PHB a few weeks down the road to someone who might have skipped it otherwise. It feels like they may be taking a longer view of things this time than before and giving things some time to grow.</p><p></p><p>Regardless it will be fun to watch as a new approach to the business, on top of the new game itself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord_Blacksteel, post: 6306291, member: 53082"] We'll have to see the number and type of adventures they produce once the game is launched. I think that will drive sales more than the relative cost of the books. Campaign settings may also become a bigger part of sales, especially if they are well supported lines and not just a book or two each. Beyond the previously mentioned 3E SRD which did not appear to have hurt sales then, Paizo does the same thing with Pathfinder's rules and it does not seem to have hurt them either. They were hardly obscure. It's a web page, just like this one, and the news of it was all over the place, even among the players I knew who didn't hang out on messageboards and the like. There were alternate versions and hyperlinked PDFs available for cheap and free all through 3E's time in the spotlight. I think the main difference between now and 14 years ago is that a) back then a web page or a PDF was not really considered a substitute for a "real" rulebook and b) PDF's are a lot easier to use at the table now with tablets and smartphones becoming a common thing. I think the interest in owning a physical book is still strong among a lot of tabletop gamers so this won't be as big of a deal as it could be. I think it may be a time-shifting impact more than a total sales impact. A lot of the gamers I know use the Pathfinder online references as a supplement to their books (looking stuff up when the book is not in-hand) or as a placeholder until they can afford the book. It's a great tool for convincing people to spend money though. "We're playing D&D tonight - Oh I don't have the new book, can I borrow someone's? - Here, use the Basic PDF" and then assuming things go well you're likely to sell a PHB a few weeks down the road to someone who might have skipped it otherwise. It feels like they may be taking a longer view of things this time than before and giving things some time to grow. Regardless it will be fun to watch as a new approach to the business, on top of the new game itself. [/QUOTE]
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