Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
L&L - D&D Next Goals, Part One
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 6071002" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>The more I read the L&L article again, and the more confused I get... <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p></p><p>Not that I am in a rush to find out what they are going to publish, but certainly my English must be bad because I read hints at completely different things. "We're going to make an RPG product called Dungeons & Dragons" means he's talking about ONE single item (book or box) with a single price tag, right? But does it replace the 3 traditional core books, or will they also be published (in which case I guess "core" will then refer to the single item from now on)?</p><p></p><p>He says the item is not a sampler but provides the capability to run a full campaign. First, that doesn't tell me at all that it includes a setting or a story arc (and he specifically says it's not a game to run a single adventure, if you have a story arc, that's practically a long adventure, even if you can call it a "campaign"). I think here he just means that the item contains everything from level 1 to the last level... if it ends at level 5, it's clearly a "sampler" isn't it? What if it ends at level 10, is it still a sampler or is it not, on the ground that 10 levels are often enough for a full campaign?</p><p></p><p>I hardly believe that they mean the item will be huge like Pathfinder, otherwise the price tag will seriously put off most of the potential new players, thus it must be slim, maybe 50-60e max.</p><p></p><p>So then it must be so that they simply will keep the material limited. Four classes, four races, a minimum number of spells, feats, monsters etc... Only the minimum information for the DM. Very few modules in the core, probably just the narrative combat and tactical combat (otherwise a lot of the D&D usual crowd won't even look at the new edition).</p><p></p><p>Then I look at the current playtest packet (excluding adventures), and it has a total of 276 pages, with the caveats:</p><p>- it's written in fairly large fonts compared to 3ed core books, so can be shrunk a good 20% at least</p><p>- some material in the current playtest may be completely removed (no magic items in core?)</p><p>+ no narrative combat and tactical combat modules yet</p><p>+ no artwork yet</p><p></p><p>It might be possible to fit everything under 300 pages and 50e if they give up magic items and only put max 100 monsters, but I'm not sure I like the sound of that...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 6071002, member: 1465"] The more I read the L&L article again, and the more confused I get... :erm: Not that I am in a rush to find out what they are going to publish, but certainly my English must be bad because I read hints at completely different things. "We're going to make an RPG product called Dungeons & Dragons" means he's talking about ONE single item (book or box) with a single price tag, right? But does it replace the 3 traditional core books, or will they also be published (in which case I guess "core" will then refer to the single item from now on)? He says the item is not a sampler but provides the capability to run a full campaign. First, that doesn't tell me at all that it includes a setting or a story arc (and he specifically says it's not a game to run a single adventure, if you have a story arc, that's practically a long adventure, even if you can call it a "campaign"). I think here he just means that the item contains everything from level 1 to the last level... if it ends at level 5, it's clearly a "sampler" isn't it? What if it ends at level 10, is it still a sampler or is it not, on the ground that 10 levels are often enough for a full campaign? I hardly believe that they mean the item will be huge like Pathfinder, otherwise the price tag will seriously put off most of the potential new players, thus it must be slim, maybe 50-60e max. So then it must be so that they simply will keep the material limited. Four classes, four races, a minimum number of spells, feats, monsters etc... Only the minimum information for the DM. Very few modules in the core, probably just the narrative combat and tactical combat (otherwise a lot of the D&D usual crowd won't even look at the new edition). Then I look at the current playtest packet (excluding adventures), and it has a total of 276 pages, with the caveats: - it's written in fairly large fonts compared to 3ed core books, so can be shrunk a good 20% at least - some material in the current playtest may be completely removed (no magic items in core?) + no narrative combat and tactical combat modules yet + no artwork yet It might be possible to fit everything under 300 pages and 50e if they give up magic items and only put max 100 monsters, but I'm not sure I like the sound of that... [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
L&L - D&D Next Goals, Part One
Top