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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 6122029" data-attributes="member: 20564"><p><strong>Not so happy with the feats</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I get a very different but similarly strong reaction. Can you help me understand why this is good. What I see is:</p><p></p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Feats are now like "boring math feats" from earlier editions that didn't do anything cool, but just helped a number. I've never heard, "Woo, I can take Weapon Focus!".<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The flip side is that so much is based off abilities (skills, attacks, saves, spell DCs, etc.) that a class that gets lots fo feats and plows them into abilities is going to get out of whack with a character who uses feats to get more options. Sure, character B might be able to use their attack to charge or to shove or to trip, but character B might have an extra +2 to hit and damage and AC and dex saves and lots of skills from boosting their Dex. (And that +2 to hit is king in such a flat AC situation.)<br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Lastly, anyone with a even score has to inflict a dead level on themselves (giving up a feat choice), just so that some point in the future they can again pay to opportunity cost again of not getting a feat just to boost this. In may be simple, but that sort of dead boost isn't going to be attractive to new players.</li> </ol></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blue, post: 6122029, member: 20564"] [b]Not so happy with the feats[/b] I get a very different but similarly strong reaction. Can you help me understand why this is good. What I see is: [LIST=1] [*]Feats are now like "boring math feats" from earlier editions that didn't do anything cool, but just helped a number. I've never heard, "Woo, I can take Weapon Focus!". [*]The flip side is that so much is based off abilities (skills, attacks, saves, spell DCs, etc.) that a class that gets lots fo feats and plows them into abilities is going to get out of whack with a character who uses feats to get more options. Sure, character B might be able to use their attack to charge or to shove or to trip, but character B might have an extra +2 to hit and damage and AC and dex saves and lots of skills from boosting their Dex. (And that +2 to hit is king in such a flat AC situation.) [*]Lastly, anyone with a even score has to inflict a dead level on themselves (giving up a feat choice), just so that some point in the future they can again pay to opportunity cost again of not getting a feat just to boost this. In may be simple, but that sort of dead boost isn't going to be attractive to new players. [/LIST] [/QUOTE]
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