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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hanez" data-source="post: 5862200" data-attributes="member: 82160"><p>Im going to run to my 4th edition PHB to make sure I've read it!  Actually wait, I've done this before.  I own the 4e phb, I know that illusion spells were MUCH reduced (and forced only into utility powers choosable every few levels by a wizard).  I don't remember anyone summoning undead in my 4e campaigns (I do remember the standard attack power with the label "necrotic" on it however.   And as you say the druid summoners weren't introduced to much later.  This was not true for the first book for either  AD&D or 3e.  Both previous systems allowed players a wide rand of  choices like these from day 1.  I think it is plain to see that the focus on combat and combat roles was a major factor in this change.</p></blockquote><p></p>