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<blockquote data-quote="elecgraystone" data-source="post: 4962989" data-attributes="member: 74232"><p>Sorry, I can't agree with that. Here's how I see it. Your hand is an improvised weapon from the unarmed group.</p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><p style="text-align: left">Unarmed: </p><p></span></span></span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px">When you punch, kick, elbow, knee, or even head butt an opponent, you’re making an unarmed strike. <u>A simple unarmed attack is treated as an improvised weapon.</u></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Monk Strike: kicking, kneeing, elbowing, or head-butting a target.</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></span><p style="text-align: left"> </p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Taking the proficiency in the monk strike sound like it turns your unarmed attack into a 'non-simple' unarmed attack. If you are making an unarmed attack you HAVE to have the weapon since YOU are the weapon. Learning the proficiency in monk strike is letting you use the weapon that is your own body.</span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Bottom line it doesn't matter if you are using an unarmed attack or a monk strike, you are using the same weapon. The difference is it's an improvised attack unless you are trained in it's use. The profieciency feat gives you that training.</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'MentorStd'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="elecgraystone, post: 4962989, member: 74232"] Sorry, I can't agree with that. Here's how I see it. Your hand is an improvised weapon from the unarmed group. [B][FONT=MentorStd-Bold][SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd-Bold][SIZE=2][LEFT]Unarmed: [/LEFT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=MentorStd-Bold][SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd-Bold][SIZE=2][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/left][/FONT][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/left][/FONT][LEFT][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2]When you punch, kick, elbow, knee, or even head butt an opponent, you’re making an unarmed strike. [U]A simple unarmed attack is treated as an improvised weapon.[/U][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [/LEFT] [FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2]Monk Strike: kicking, kneeing, elbowing, or head-butting a target. [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][LEFT][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2]Taking the proficiency in the monk strike sound like it turns your unarmed attack into a 'non-simple' unarmed attack. If you are making an unarmed attack you HAVE to have the weapon since YOU are the weapon. Learning the proficiency in monk strike is letting you use the weapon that is your own body.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2]Bottom line it doesn't matter if you are using an unarmed attack or a monk strike, you are using the same weapon. The difference is it's an improvised attack unless you are trained in it's use. The profieciency feat gives you that training.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2][FONT=MentorStd][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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