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<blockquote data-quote="Hawken" data-source="post: 4854943" data-attributes="member: 23619"><p>Herzog, where is the buy-off you mention? Your XP table continues to penalize the LA +2 race for a full 20 levels! A buy off means that at some point the penalties would stop. </p><p></p><p>Also, your solution does what the regular LA solution does--it frontloads the penalties much in the same way that 3.0 Ranger class frontloads its abilities. They get the most of it all at once! The lowest levels are precisely when LA races do NOT need the worst penalties but the least. All your method does different from the LA rules is reduce the level difference from 2 to 1 by 11th level. But you still keep the 1 level difference through the life of the character. No buy-off. Unless by buy-off you mean cut the level penalty from 2 to 1--which would make it a buy-down. </p><p></p><p>Your method is far from reasonable. At 20th level, no racial abilities are worth one full level of power. The only thing Drow have that scales is their SR and by 10th-15th, that can easily be circumvented or replaced through spells or items, thus making their race a liability when it comes to gaining power. And most of the other LA races don't even have abilities that scale with a character's level. </p><p></p><p>Sylrae, its not EXTRA XP they pay. Its just the amount of delay when they level. It would be extra if there was no cut off and the extra amount kept having to be paid, but eventually, it does get paid off and the delay goes away and they start/resume advancing like everyone else.</p><p></p><p>If you think 17,000 is too much, then treat it like 1 level difference and make them use 9,000 (difference between lvl 10 and 9 in XP), and split that over 10 levels, or 6 levels, or whatever you feel is appropriate. For LA +1, you could cut that amount in half. For LA +3, you could double it, or increase it by 50% for each LA above +2.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hawken, post: 4854943, member: 23619"] Herzog, where is the buy-off you mention? Your XP table continues to penalize the LA +2 race for a full 20 levels! A buy off means that at some point the penalties would stop. Also, your solution does what the regular LA solution does--it frontloads the penalties much in the same way that 3.0 Ranger class frontloads its abilities. They get the most of it all at once! The lowest levels are precisely when LA races do NOT need the worst penalties but the least. All your method does different from the LA rules is reduce the level difference from 2 to 1 by 11th level. But you still keep the 1 level difference through the life of the character. No buy-off. Unless by buy-off you mean cut the level penalty from 2 to 1--which would make it a buy-down. Your method is far from reasonable. At 20th level, no racial abilities are worth one full level of power. The only thing Drow have that scales is their SR and by 10th-15th, that can easily be circumvented or replaced through spells or items, thus making their race a liability when it comes to gaining power. And most of the other LA races don't even have abilities that scale with a character's level. Sylrae, its not EXTRA XP they pay. Its just the amount of delay when they level. It would be extra if there was no cut off and the extra amount kept having to be paid, but eventually, it does get paid off and the delay goes away and they start/resume advancing like everyone else. If you think 17,000 is too much, then treat it like 1 level difference and make them use 9,000 (difference between lvl 10 and 9 in XP), and split that over 10 levels, or 6 levels, or whatever you feel is appropriate. For LA +1, you could cut that amount in half. For LA +3, you could double it, or increase it by 50% for each LA above +2. [/QUOTE]
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