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<blockquote data-quote="Nichwee" data-source="post: 5079587" data-attributes="member: 84242"><p>TBH the idea of a Dex-based Leader doesn't make that much sense to me - unless it was the leader of a bow division.</p><p></p><p>Leaders are about imspiring others and shouting orders rather than doing stuff themselves. </p><p>This to me seems to me a mental skill (for tactics) and a personality/presense thing to know what to say and how to say it.</p><p>The use of Str for a "lead from the front" type also makes some sense but a stand back and direct things leader isn't going to need a physical stat imo. He would be about knowing what to do and what to say (Int/Wis/Cha).</p><p></p><p>Dex builds are generally about being swift and precise, so your attacks are done before anyone can react. A leader wants the opposite. He wants the enemy and his allies to see his attacks and fear them/take heart from them. So Dex based fighting isn't really Leader-y imo.</p><p>It is also why the Dex-based fighter becomes more striker than normal. He is about getting in the strike and getting out again/getting in lots of strikes rather than "Me here, you deal with me" tactics that the defenders normally employ.</p><p></p><p>As for fast heroes. What do you mean? High initiative?</p><p>As this is the only area where Dex can be considered 'fast' that isn't done by something else too/instead. Rangers are the 'fast moving' ones with lots of 'shift as you go' options that often trigger on Wisdom. AC and Ref can be Int-based for fast reactions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nichwee, post: 5079587, member: 84242"] TBH the idea of a Dex-based Leader doesn't make that much sense to me - unless it was the leader of a bow division. Leaders are about imspiring others and shouting orders rather than doing stuff themselves. This to me seems to me a mental skill (for tactics) and a personality/presense thing to know what to say and how to say it. The use of Str for a "lead from the front" type also makes some sense but a stand back and direct things leader isn't going to need a physical stat imo. He would be about knowing what to do and what to say (Int/Wis/Cha). Dex builds are generally about being swift and precise, so your attacks are done before anyone can react. A leader wants the opposite. He wants the enemy and his allies to see his attacks and fear them/take heart from them. So Dex based fighting isn't really Leader-y imo. It is also why the Dex-based fighter becomes more striker than normal. He is about getting in the strike and getting out again/getting in lots of strikes rather than "Me here, you deal with me" tactics that the defenders normally employ. As for fast heroes. What do you mean? High initiative? As this is the only area where Dex can be considered 'fast' that isn't done by something else too/instead. Rangers are the 'fast moving' ones with lots of 'shift as you go' options that often trigger on Wisdom. AC and Ref can be Int-based for fast reactions. [/QUOTE]
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