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<blockquote data-quote="Blackwind" data-source="post: 38435" data-attributes="member: 1205"><p>My group has been looking forward to MotW for quite some time, mainly because there's a certain dwarven ranger who gets grumpy when he has to wait months and months for all the new feats, items, spells, and PrCs that the other classes are getting. As the campaign's DM, I'll be glad when he shuts up. In another campaign, I play a barbarian/druid (named Drakk Blackwind), so I'm looking forward to the book too, mainly for the new feats related to rage and wildshape (nasty combo btw). As for the debate on the WotC classbooks in general, I'll throw in my 2 copper, which might be unpopular here.</p><p></p><p>S&F: Liked it in general. PrCs were cool, some for PCs, some for NPCs. Loved the exotic weapons. A few good feats. Actually, the combat examples were sort of useful. Problem with this book was all the errors. Lots of errata was necessary.</p><p></p><p>DoF: Doesn't get used much IMC. The priestly PrCs in the FRCS were more useful and less niche-oriented. Feats don't get used at all, the spells are neglected, and only a couple of the items have shown up in my game. </p><p></p><p>T&B: Sweetest of the bunch. I liked the stuff on arcane labs and libraries. Even some of the organizations were cool, and mostly I ignore the organizations in these books. Optional rules were cool. A lot of the PrCs were good, as were the spells and items. I wish the rest of the books were like this.</p><p></p><p>S&S: I play a halfling bard in RPGA so I was disappointed with the lack of bardic material. Nobody IMC is interested in the PrCs or many of the feats. Lackluster book in general, the trapmaking and guild stuff was generally inferior to FFG's Traps & Treachery.</p><p></p><p>Given all that, I still think the WotC books are way better than the vast majority of the material put out by 3rd party publishers. Most of what's out there is unusable, IMHO. That's fine though, I just don't buy it. What bothers me is when people disparage the WotC material and say that the third party material is 10 times more creative, and that WotC's designers lack creativity. Some of the only good 3rd party books are actually by WotC designers (case in point: Book of Eldritch Might), and, as I said, most of the 3rd party stuff is far worse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blackwind, post: 38435, member: 1205"] My group has been looking forward to MotW for quite some time, mainly because there's a certain dwarven ranger who gets grumpy when he has to wait months and months for all the new feats, items, spells, and PrCs that the other classes are getting. As the campaign's DM, I'll be glad when he shuts up. In another campaign, I play a barbarian/druid (named Drakk Blackwind), so I'm looking forward to the book too, mainly for the new feats related to rage and wildshape (nasty combo btw). As for the debate on the WotC classbooks in general, I'll throw in my 2 copper, which might be unpopular here. S&F: Liked it in general. PrCs were cool, some for PCs, some for NPCs. Loved the exotic weapons. A few good feats. Actually, the combat examples were sort of useful. Problem with this book was all the errors. Lots of errata was necessary. DoF: Doesn't get used much IMC. The priestly PrCs in the FRCS were more useful and less niche-oriented. Feats don't get used at all, the spells are neglected, and only a couple of the items have shown up in my game. T&B: Sweetest of the bunch. I liked the stuff on arcane labs and libraries. Even some of the organizations were cool, and mostly I ignore the organizations in these books. Optional rules were cool. A lot of the PrCs were good, as were the spells and items. I wish the rest of the books were like this. S&S: I play a halfling bard in RPGA so I was disappointed with the lack of bardic material. Nobody IMC is interested in the PrCs or many of the feats. Lackluster book in general, the trapmaking and guild stuff was generally inferior to FFG's Traps & Treachery. Given all that, I still think the WotC books are way better than the vast majority of the material put out by 3rd party publishers. Most of what's out there is unusable, IMHO. That's fine though, I just don't buy it. What bothers me is when people disparage the WotC material and say that the third party material is 10 times more creative, and that WotC's designers lack creativity. Some of the only good 3rd party books are actually by WotC designers (case in point: Book of Eldritch Might), and, as I said, most of the 3rd party stuff is far worse. [/QUOTE]
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