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lack of non-combat crunch is my biggest gripe with 4e atm
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<blockquote data-quote="Goumindong" data-source="post: 4492509" data-attributes="member: 70874"><p>So let me get this straight</p><p></p><p>You start by throwing out all of the non-combat crunch that 4e has out of hand, rejecting it implicitly.</p><p></p><p>Then you say that 4e doesn't have enough non-combat crunch for you.</p><p></p><p>Something is going on beyond your stated wishes. DnD 4e has more non-combat crunch than any previous edition and most other games. Its non-combat crunch is simple, balanced, and allows for suspense and intrigue across the widest spectrum of classes, races, and levels. </p><p></p><p>The other day, I ran a couple of impromptu skill challenges for my players, they had to find out who had attempted to assassinate them. They interrogated one of the survivors[diplomacy, intimidation], wen't to collect information[diplomacy, intimidation, perception, insight] and do then tried to identify and capture the thief[insight, perception, athletics, stealth]. They were level 2-3, but i could have ran it for any level of character. They had a blast. If it had been 3.5 they would have simply bought a spell.</p><p></p><p> Given the other instances of this claim, can i surmise that you previously played a wizard in other editions of DnD?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Goumindong, post: 4492509, member: 70874"] So let me get this straight You start by throwing out all of the non-combat crunch that 4e has out of hand, rejecting it implicitly. Then you say that 4e doesn't have enough non-combat crunch for you. Something is going on beyond your stated wishes. DnD 4e has more non-combat crunch than any previous edition and most other games. Its non-combat crunch is simple, balanced, and allows for suspense and intrigue across the widest spectrum of classes, races, and levels. The other day, I ran a couple of impromptu skill challenges for my players, they had to find out who had attempted to assassinate them. They interrogated one of the survivors[diplomacy, intimidation], wen't to collect information[diplomacy, intimidation, perception, insight] and do then tried to identify and capture the thief[insight, perception, athletics, stealth]. They were level 2-3, but i could have ran it for any level of character. They had a blast. If it had been 3.5 they would have simply bought a spell. Given the other instances of this claim, can i surmise that you previously played a wizard in other editions of DnD? [/QUOTE]
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