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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nichwee" data-source="post: 6031332" data-attributes="member: 84242">I start by saying I have never done Lair Assaults, but the following is based on what I have read of the manner of play and the objective of them:I think the point Saracenus is making is that Lair Assaults are written to be hard, to the point of broken in favour of the DM, so for a DM to add complications that the LA doesn't include to combat an idea the players came up with is against the spirit of the entire exercise.I believe LA's are a challenge saying "This module is too hard, AS WRITTEN, to be beat with 99% of groups. So see if you can put together a squad that can beat it using any cheesy combo, gimmicky trick or sneaky strategy you can think up - as long as it uses the rules as written for D&D4!"This would mean that to then go "But that item can take the sting out of the encounter, I'm going to fudge it" is cheating the players. LA specifically challenges them to take the sting out of the encounters, or they get stung TO DEATH every time.As far as I can tell LA's are about seeing if the players can use sneaky combos to unbreak the pre-broken. So if a trick works, it was to the players credit to have found it.LA's don't sound my sort of thing, but even I see the fun in an open and honest challenge of "Munchkin your worst - this dungeon can take it" and seeing who comes out on top. When the objective is "Live and die by the rules as written", as LA's appear to be, then it is perfectly appropriate to be looking to use the cheese and the DM should be complimenting you on finding the right flavour of cheese to keep his killer rodents at bay.</blockquote>

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