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<blockquote data-quote="Insight" data-source="post: 2599655" data-attributes="member: 11437">This discussion in getting really far OT, but since we're there anyway...The systems that use feat chains and not classes (or simplified classes in some cases) give out more feats.&nbsp; Thus the 'weight' of a feat is less and doesn't need to be the 1:3 ratio it is in D&amp;D.&nbsp; True20 gives out feats each level, as their classes have no class abilities at all.&nbsp; D20 Modern, Grim Tales, Iron Heroes, etc., use a model whereby the player customizes their class abilities through feat chains.So it's not at all impossible or unwieldy to get rid of class abilities and make them into feats.&nbsp; You can always change the 'value' of a given feat through prerequisites.&nbsp; But I think with the current ratio in D&amp;D, feats are too valuable to spend on class abilities.&nbsp; You would need to make a wholesale change in how feats are distributed, and would need to weigh certain feats and/or feat chains differently to keep play balance somewhat intact.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Insight, post: 2599655, member: 11437"] This discussion in getting really far OT, but since we're there anyway... The systems that use feat chains and not classes (or simplified classes in some cases) give out more feats. Thus the 'weight' of a feat is less and doesn't need to be the 1:3 ratio it is in D&D. True20 gives out feats each level, as their classes have no class abilities at all. D20 Modern, Grim Tales, Iron Heroes, etc., use a model whereby the player customizes their class abilities through feat chains. So it's not at all impossible or unwieldy to get rid of class abilities and make them into feats. You can always change the 'value' of a given feat through prerequisites. But I think with the current ratio in D&D, feats are too valuable to spend on class abilities. You would need to make a wholesale change in how feats are distributed, and would need to weigh certain feats and/or feat chains differently to keep play balance somewhat intact. [/QUOTE]

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