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<blockquote data-quote="Graf" data-source="post: 1148559" data-attributes="member: 3087"><p>15 the sweet spot is 15, not 16. Or 20 if you have medium or heavier armor.</p><p><sigh></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>WotC has repeatedly stated they belive that a racial strength bonus is more powerful than a bonus to any other physical stat. All my experiences confirm this.</p><p>It appears you play in a game where you are frequently deprived of the use of your equipment and/or ambushed in compromising situations, where most of the characters have access to rogue/ranger skills, where people primarily use light armor, and ranged-only combat is frequent. </p><p>The games I've run-played in are more typically D&D-esque (for lack of a better word). The games feature heavily armed and armored combatants, rogues and rangers are not the most prevalent classes, few characters have high enough skill checks in things like hide, tumble, etc. to actually use them, and battles-that-can-only-occur-at-a-range are vanishing rare (often because someone has access to transportation magic, items, mounts, spells that deflect or stop missiles, etc ).</p><p>In these kinds of games characters with a higher strength are more effective combatants than people who put the same points into dexterity.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What runners, precisely, are we talking about here?</p><p>Many champion athletes are tremendous physical specimens who are better than most people would be at any given physical activity. They live in a world where fractional improvements in performance can make or break a career. This system, and my D&D game, have little to do with that world.</p><p></p><p>Most of the people I know who can lift and carry large amounts, break things easily, etc. are large, they aren't particularly fast runners despite being able bench twice as much as the next person.</p><p>Most of the people I know who run quickly are lean and fast. They can't carry or lift much relative to the speed they have over other people.</p><p>There's nothing more complex than that underpinning the system.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Graf, post: 1148559, member: 3087"] 15 the sweet spot is 15, not 16. Or 20 if you have medium or heavier armor. <sigh> WotC has repeatedly stated they belive that a racial strength bonus is more powerful than a bonus to any other physical stat. All my experiences confirm this. It appears you play in a game where you are frequently deprived of the use of your equipment and/or ambushed in compromising situations, where most of the characters have access to rogue/ranger skills, where people primarily use light armor, and ranged-only combat is frequent. The games I've run-played in are more typically D&D-esque (for lack of a better word). The games feature heavily armed and armored combatants, rogues and rangers are not the most prevalent classes, few characters have high enough skill checks in things like hide, tumble, etc. to actually use them, and battles-that-can-only-occur-at-a-range are vanishing rare (often because someone has access to transportation magic, items, mounts, spells that deflect or stop missiles, etc ). In these kinds of games characters with a higher strength are more effective combatants than people who put the same points into dexterity. What runners, precisely, are we talking about here? Many champion athletes are tremendous physical specimens who are better than most people would be at any given physical activity. They live in a world where fractional improvements in performance can make or break a career. This system, and my D&D game, have little to do with that world. Most of the people I know who can lift and carry large amounts, break things easily, etc. are large, they aren't particularly fast runners despite being able bench twice as much as the next person. Most of the people I know who run quickly are lean and fast. They can't carry or lift much relative to the speed they have over other people. There's nothing more complex than that underpinning the system. [/QUOTE]
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