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<blockquote data-quote="John Blackport" data-source="post: 6313982" data-attributes="member: 6679408"><p>Not the answer I wanted to hear of course <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> but your explanation makes a lot of sense: you "take on the space of the mount with your reach". Terrible news for riders of mounts of bigger than Large size!</p><p></p><p>Here's another situation I'd like your thoughts on: Whirlwind Attack allows you one attack against "each enemy within reach". I'm leaving all the "spiked chain" stuff out of this, since I have no interest in it.</p><p></p><p>Theoretically, you could have a reach weapon in one hand and a light weapon in the other, to get attacks on everyone in 5' and 10', with all the appropriate penalties to hit. The problem is that, when you are on foot, all reach weapons seem to require the use of two hands. </p><p></p><p>But when you are mounted, lances can be used in one hand. A horseman's pick in the other hand is a light weapon, which helps with the TWF penalties (especially if you don't have the TWF feat --- as you know, few people take both TWF and Whirlwind)</p><p></p><p>I'm assuming a more-or-less stationary position (maybe after a charge, maybe not) where the cavalier is "stuck in" to a few ranks of enemy infantry. . . so charging is not an issue here, just fighting in close combat. It seems that, if you are "taking the space" of a Large (4x4) mount, you could have theoretically be able to reach 32 enemies in one round (assuming they're all Medium size or smaller, and standing 1 per square).</p><p></p><p>Granted --- it's hard to visualize exactly how this situation might happen in play. And being in close combat with 32 enemies is probably certain doom (unless those every one of those enemies are MUCH weaker than you, in which case a good old-fashioned area-effect spell might be more efficient). But is it legal?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Blackport, post: 6313982, member: 6679408"] Not the answer I wanted to hear of course :) but your explanation makes a lot of sense: you "take on the space of the mount with your reach". Terrible news for riders of mounts of bigger than Large size! Here's another situation I'd like your thoughts on: Whirlwind Attack allows you one attack against "each enemy within reach". I'm leaving all the "spiked chain" stuff out of this, since I have no interest in it. Theoretically, you could have a reach weapon in one hand and a light weapon in the other, to get attacks on everyone in 5' and 10', with all the appropriate penalties to hit. The problem is that, when you are on foot, all reach weapons seem to require the use of two hands. But when you are mounted, lances can be used in one hand. A horseman's pick in the other hand is a light weapon, which helps with the TWF penalties (especially if you don't have the TWF feat --- as you know, few people take both TWF and Whirlwind) I'm assuming a more-or-less stationary position (maybe after a charge, maybe not) where the cavalier is "stuck in" to a few ranks of enemy infantry. . . so charging is not an issue here, just fighting in close combat. It seems that, if you are "taking the space" of a Large (4x4) mount, you could have theoretically be able to reach 32 enemies in one round (assuming they're all Medium size or smaller, and standing 1 per square). Granted --- it's hard to visualize exactly how this situation might happen in play. And being in close combat with 32 enemies is probably certain doom (unless those every one of those enemies are MUCH weaker than you, in which case a good old-fashioned area-effect spell might be more efficient). But is it legal? [/QUOTE]
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