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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6359030" data-attributes="member: 996">But not reach, the raison detre of the spear since the stone age.&nbsp; Admittedly, /that/ is primarily an issue of granularity.&nbsp; In a more granular system an axe would have reach over a dagger, a spear over that, and a very long spear called a lance or pike would beat out a regular spear.&nbsp; A binary reach (for pikes, lances &amp; whips) / no reach (for everything else from spears &amp; greatswords to daggers &amp; head-buts) loses a lot of that.&nbsp; FWIW.It's been an issue for like 3 eds, now:&nbsp; no spear (the broad category of long, pointy weapons, not a specific weapon entry called that in D&amp;D) w/ reach if you're using a shield.&nbsp; Well, unless you get on a horse, then it's OK.&nbsp; Phalanxes?&nbsp; Nah, hobgoblins use flail &amp; shield to form those (a flail?&nbsp; in a phalanx?).&nbsp; It's just one of those weird little blocks systems develop sometimes.&nbsp; One-handed spear, with reach, and a shield is somehow unthinkable.&nbsp; Whip or kusari-gama or something weird being one-handed with reach, sure, but not a spear.&nbsp; :shrug:Not a big deal, just a funny little rut the game's been in for like 12 years.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6359030, member: 996"] But not reach, the raison detre of the spear since the stone age. Admittedly, /that/ is primarily an issue of granularity. In a more granular system an axe would have reach over a dagger, a spear over that, and a very long spear called a lance or pike would beat out a regular spear. A binary reach (for pikes, lances & whips) / no reach (for everything else from spears & greatswords to daggers & head-buts) loses a lot of that. FWIW. It's been an issue for like 3 eds, now: no spear (the broad category of long, pointy weapons, not a specific weapon entry called that in D&D) w/ reach if you're using a shield. Well, unless you get on a horse, then it's OK. Phalanxes? Nah, hobgoblins use flail & shield to form those (a flail? in a phalanx?). It's just one of those weird little blocks systems develop sometimes. One-handed spear, with reach, and a shield is somehow unthinkable. Whip or kusari-gama or something weird being one-handed with reach, sure, but not a spear. :shrug: Not a big deal, just a funny little rut the game's been in for like 12 years. [/QUOTE]

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