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Laptops at the table..and recent research showing how bad it is in education..does it carry over to gaming?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6317864" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>I would be very surprised to find that, myself. Neither of us have any evidence though! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But it's <strong>not a non-problem</strong>, that's the thing, as I've explained. It may be a non-problem for you, that's great. I play with very smart people in high-end jobs who got As though high-school and university, very smart people however you measure it - some of those people are much better off tracking stuff digitally, where possible - none of them but me have any diagnosed issues, but that's the thing, this assumption that it's a non-problem is just an assumption and a wrong one.</p><p></p><p>My ADHD wasn't diagnosed until I was 20, treated properly until I was 22. I went through life with people telling me I was being lazy or cheating or whatever using computers and calculators where I could (something my two math-genius friends disagreed with - they always thought it was fine), implying that I was just dumb or not trying hard enough, or whatever, and it was all nonsense.</p><p></p><p>So when I see other people messing stuff up or wanting to use a digital/automated method to track something, I feel like I know better than to sneer. If they were uneducated, if it was just "I don't know how to do math", I'd want to teach them and help them - that isn't the issue. If you slam the game to a halt and make them focus on the math, yes, they will get right, but how, exactly, does that help? My view is that it does not.</p><p></p><p>As for the problems from technology, I reject any suggestion that they are to do with automation, spreadsheets, or the like. That flies in the face of my experience using laptops in games since the mid-90s.</p><p></p><p>My experience is very clearly that it's communications tech that's a problem, and it's much more of a problem when it's new than when it's a year or three old. Mobile phones, then text messages were a problem for us in the mid-late '90s, but then they got under control. Twitter was a problem three years ago, but now it's gone away. The only thing that remains a problem from time to time is that some people's employees/SOs can't leave them alone, but honestly, better than goes via text than phone calls (the one SO who insists on phoning every hour or two causes more disruption than the rest put together).</p><p></p><p>If people are watching YouTube or whatever during your game - your problem ain't tech. It's either your game, or that player.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 6317864, member: 18"] I would be very surprised to find that, myself. Neither of us have any evidence though! :) But it's [B]not a non-problem[/B], that's the thing, as I've explained. It may be a non-problem for you, that's great. I play with very smart people in high-end jobs who got As though high-school and university, very smart people however you measure it - some of those people are much better off tracking stuff digitally, where possible - none of them but me have any diagnosed issues, but that's the thing, this assumption that it's a non-problem is just an assumption and a wrong one. My ADHD wasn't diagnosed until I was 20, treated properly until I was 22. I went through life with people telling me I was being lazy or cheating or whatever using computers and calculators where I could (something my two math-genius friends disagreed with - they always thought it was fine), implying that I was just dumb or not trying hard enough, or whatever, and it was all nonsense. So when I see other people messing stuff up or wanting to use a digital/automated method to track something, I feel like I know better than to sneer. If they were uneducated, if it was just "I don't know how to do math", I'd want to teach them and help them - that isn't the issue. If you slam the game to a halt and make them focus on the math, yes, they will get right, but how, exactly, does that help? My view is that it does not. As for the problems from technology, I reject any suggestion that they are to do with automation, spreadsheets, or the like. That flies in the face of my experience using laptops in games since the mid-90s. My experience is very clearly that it's communications tech that's a problem, and it's much more of a problem when it's new than when it's a year or three old. Mobile phones, then text messages were a problem for us in the mid-late '90s, but then they got under control. Twitter was a problem three years ago, but now it's gone away. The only thing that remains a problem from time to time is that some people's employees/SOs can't leave them alone, but honestly, better than goes via text than phone calls (the one SO who insists on phoning every hour or two causes more disruption than the rest put together). If people are watching YouTube or whatever during your game - your problem ain't tech. It's either your game, or that player. [/QUOTE]
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