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<blockquote data-quote="Uder" data-source="post: 2607677" data-attributes="member: 11949">I've wondered the same. They were L in AD&amp;D, and now they seem like they're smaller than gnolls (who were also L, just not as bulky) half the time. There was that teeny tiny one that came from D&amp;D Minis... I thought, &quot;ooh, who's the hobgoblin with the beard?&quot;Back to your Q:It's better than an ogre in just about every way, and ogres are LA+2. I'd bump it up to three, also. Four for the first PC to run one, then maybe dial back later, just to be safe. If it's not for PC use, who cares? Close is close enough.Goblin is not on their list of automatic languages. Is it intended that they won't be able to speak goblin out loud? Can you use telepathy while raging?Curious as to the change to Barbarian for favored class. It's a very synergistic choice, sure, but doesn't fit the &quot;sneaky ambushers&quot; view of the bugbears I've always imagined. Of course, that doesn't mean yours aren't different...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Uder, post: 2607677, member: 11949"] I've wondered the same. They were L in AD&D, and now they seem like they're smaller than gnolls (who were also L, just not as bulky) half the time. There was that teeny tiny one that came from D&D Minis... I thought, "ooh, who's the hobgoblin with the beard?" Back to your Q: It's better than an ogre in just about every way, and ogres are LA+2. I'd bump it up to three, also. Four for the first PC to run one, then maybe dial back later, just to be safe. If it's not for PC use, who cares? Close is close enough. Goblin is not on their list of automatic languages. Is it intended that they won't be able to speak goblin out loud? Can you use telepathy while raging? Curious as to the change to Barbarian for favored class. It's a very synergistic choice, sure, but doesn't fit the "sneaky ambushers" view of the bugbears I've always imagined. Of course, that doesn't mean yours aren't different... [/QUOTE]

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