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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DarkLord Of DForce" data-source="post: 5170525" data-attributes="member: 85416">Okay, we had this come up in our session last night., we were fighting 2 Behirs with our level 12 party.First of all, here is the stats card for the Behirs:BehirHuge natural magical beastLevel 14 Solo SoldierX P J ,000Initiative see lightning reflexes Senses Perception +12;tremorsense 10Lightning Storm aura 5; an enemy that starts its turn in the auratakes S lightning damage.HP 564; Bloodied 282AC 30; Fortitude 27, Reflex 26, Will 26Resist 15 lightningSaving Throws +5Speed 7, climb 5Action Points 2© Claw (standard; at-will)Reach 3; +21 vs. AC; 2d8 + 6 damage.4 Bite (standard; at-will) • LightningReach 3; +21 vs. AC; 1d8 + 6 damage plus 1d8 lightningdamage.4 Devour (standard; recharges when no creature is affected by thispower)Reach 3; +19 vs. Reflex; 2d8 + 6 damage, and a Medium orsmaller target is swallowed. A swallowed target is grabbedand restrained. A swallowed creature has line of sight and lineof effect only to the behir, and no creature has line of sight orline of effect to it. A creature that escapes the grab is no longerswallowed and appears in a space adjacent to the behir. A behircan move normally while it has a target grabbed in this way.When the behir dies, the target can escape as a move action,appearing in the behir's former space. Sustain Minor: The behirsustains the grab, and the target takes 15 damage.«£• Lightning Breath (standard; recharge [X] (jj) • LightningClose blast 5; +17 vs. Reflex; 3d10 + 6 lightning damage and thetarget is dazed. Miss: Half damage.Thunderleg Stomp (standard; at-will)Close burst 3; +17 vs. Fortitude; 1d8 + 6 damage, and the targetis knocked prone.Lightning ReflexesThe behir acts three times in a round, on initiative counts 30,20, and 10. It cannot delay or ready actions. On each turn, it hasa standard action instead of the normal allotment of actions. Itcan use one immediate action between each pair of turns.Alignment Unaligned Languages Common, DraconicStr 2 3 (+13) Dex 20 (+12) Wis 21 (+12)Con 21 (+12) Int 7 (+5) Cha 13 (+8)Now, the DM ruled that each Behir could devour 2 targets at once, so at any given time during the fight, 3/4 of our 7 man team were "devoured".2nd, at one point, I was behind a team-mate who was adjacent to one of the Behirs. The Dm said it was attacking me. I asked if it was a ranged or area power and he said ranged, and I said ok, because if it was a melee attack, he couldn't use it. The DM said, yes he can. I told him that I didn't think a foe could hit through an opponent with a melee attack to get to another target. He said yes it can, because I said it can, I'm DM. His further argument was that because the creature was a "huge" class, it could simply reach down *over* the adjacent player, rather than through him, to hit me. I disagreed, although I can understand what he's saying.  Seems to me the adjacent player would almost get an OA if something did that. Anyways, my argument was that it didn't have Line of Effect, as per PHB1, page 274/275:Line of Effect: You can target a creature or a squareif there’s an unblocked path between it and you—thatis, if you have line of effect to it. If every imaginary lineyou trace to a target passes through or touches a solidobstacle, you don’t have line of effect to the target.Fog, darkness, and other types of obscured squaresI've always played that you can not attack any foe on the other side of a foe adjacent to you, and vice-versa, that enemies can't attack you through your other players. (this is melee I'm talking about, mind you), even if it does have Reach3.Can anyone help with this - I'm not looking for "right" or "wrong", but which action would be correct so we'll know how to handle it next time it comes up.Thanks gang.</blockquote>

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