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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 6685986" data-attributes="member: 45197">Hiya.&nbsp; For my campaign, I allow new PC's to enter the game at &quot;Average Party Level -2; maximum starting level 3&quot;. So, if your average PC level is 6, then 6-2 = 4; but nobody starts higher than 3rd, so new characters are level 3.&nbsp; The thing with 5e is that level's 1 and 2 are kinda like &quot;negative levels&quot; of 1e days for the Cavalier (or some of the monster classes from the &quot;Creature Books&quot; for BECMI&quot;. I see levels 1 and 2 as &quot;stepping stones of final training&quot; for ones class. I mean, one 2nd level Fighter is pretty much the same most other 2nd level Fighters in terms of Fighter class abilities. But once you hit 3rd level you pick your archtype. It is level 3 that I really see a class as &quot;full-blown&quot;. Ergo, allowing a possible starting level higher than 1st.If you don't want to do that, another option that seems to be popular is the &quot;HP's as if you were 3rd level&quot;. A PC would start at 1st level but have the HP's of a 3rd level. He wouldn't gain HP's until he hits 4th level.All that said...if the newbie adventurers can survive a foray into the dungeon, chances are they'll hit 2nd if not 3rd by the time they wake up the next morning anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />^_^Paul L. Ming</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pming, post: 6685986, member: 45197"] Hiya. For my campaign, I allow new PC's to enter the game at "Average Party Level -2; maximum starting level 3". So, if your average PC level is 6, then 6-2 = 4; but nobody starts higher than 3rd, so new characters are level 3. The thing with 5e is that level's 1 and 2 are kinda like "negative levels" of 1e days for the Cavalier (or some of the monster classes from the "Creature Books" for BECMI". I see levels 1 and 2 as "stepping stones of final training" for ones class. I mean, one 2nd level Fighter is pretty much the same most other 2nd level Fighters in terms of Fighter class abilities. But once you hit 3rd level you pick your archtype. It is level 3 that I really see a class as "full-blown". Ergo, allowing a possible starting level higher than 1st. If you don't want to do that, another option that seems to be popular is the "HP's as if you were 3rd level". A PC would start at 1st level but have the HP's of a 3rd level. He wouldn't gain HP's until he hits 4th level. All that said...if the newbie adventurers can survive a foray into the dungeon, chances are they'll hit 2nd if not 3rd by the time they wake up the next morning anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it. :) ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]

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