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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnSnow" data-source="post: 4002363" data-attributes="member: 32164">So the god of Fire should be equipped with Cold spells? That makes all kinds of sense. Of course, I could make the same arguments about elementals and red dragons. Which is what can be called "extrapolating to the extreme."Oh, I've got plenty. I just don't feel the need to address them to anyone who's answer to everything is basically "La-la-la-la! Not listening!!"It's by way of extrapolating from what you've stated to what that logically implies. I'm engaged in a discussion technique called "probing." In other words, I'm trying to understand your opinion by raising other, related issues (other absolutes in D&D) to determine whether you like absolutes only in energy resistance or whether you like absolutes in all aspects of the game.Having absolutes invites the notion of an ability to bypass those absolutes. For instance, there is a feat in D&D 3e that allows a character to do fire damage even to creatures with immunity to fire damage. And then there's the logical extremes. There's nothing to prevent a Fire Giant or Red Dragon from, for example, drinking molten lava. Clearly you have no problem with this. A lot of us do.Ahem. If you pay attention, the topic at hand in this thread is not actually elementals, but dragons. And as far as I'm aware, a red dragon isn't made out of fire.Now, on the subject of fires being burned. If I were to blast a lit candle with a flamethrower, the candle flame might still exist...might. But I highly doubt that fire will be the same burning gas it was in the first place.Logic (and especially science) have no place in elementals. Why? Because fire isn't cohesive. So the whole concept of cohesive fire is fantastic. Assuming such a fire COULD exist, what would happen if it was hit by a strong blast of fire? That's a very good question,  the answer to which is by no means a foregone conclusion. From a gameplay standpoint, we might suspect that a small fire elemental might be consumed by a sufficiently large one. Just as a small campfire might be consumed by a forest fire.I'm really quite confused. Do you believe D&D should be altered to fit your preference, even if the vast majority of D&D players disagree with you?</blockquote>

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