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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 8525678" data-attributes="member: 2209">I ran one in 3.5 where a half million orcs invaded the extraplanar city where my high-level group was doing a murder mystery and trying to get through a gate under the city. The factions in the city (hobgoblins, fire giants) fought back while one faction (flying tiger men asherake) betrayed the city.It was mostly big picture narrative and description. The party got into various fights as things happened (magical airship fight with tons of NPC asherakes, tons of NPC orcs of various levels including a 17th level barbarian one).If I wanted to do party participation in the overall battle to affect whether a battle wins or loses without just full narration I might use the quick easy GURPS 3e rules for it, I would not really want anything like actual miniatures or mass combat rules to bog down my at the table time.There is a d20 3.0 book by Avalanche Press on Ancient Egypt that had a short section on wars with a really cool section on some events you can roll up for your party during a battle.</blockquote>