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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elon Tusk" data-source="post: 7069332" data-attributes="member: 6875235">So I started thinking about homebrewing a large PC. Half-ogre seemed the obvious place to begin.So for research purposes, I looked them up in the Monster Manual.It says there are several sub-races depending on the mother's race; I thought that would be interesting for a PC.But then I started looking at its size and size bonuses:It's "Large giant, any chaotic alignment."Okay, so far so good.In the description, it says, "An adult half-orge or ogrillon stands 8 feet tall and weighs 450 pounds on average."That quickly became problematic as bugbears, firbolgs, and goliaths are about the same size; so why would a half-ogre be considered large?Then I looked at stats and features of the half-ogre.Strength and Constitution are only 17 and 14 respectively, much lower than I expected.It has no significant abilities, just Battleaxe and Javelin, which both have a 5' reach, but with 2d8+3 and 2d6+3 damage respectively.A medium bugbear has a 5' greater reach.The weapon damage die is doubled, however, but is this because of its size (they are not labelled large weapons, and a half-ogre's +3 Strength modifier can be significantly beaten by other PCs with a +5)?It has 30 (4d10+8) hit points and is Challenge Rating 1.So if hit points were adjusted to a first level PC, the only race features would be double weapon die and size large.Size large benefits/detriments:+ It gains an extra damage die for weapons.+ Small creatures could not Grapple or Shove it; it can grapple and shove huge creatures.(+) Carrying Capacity, pushing, dragging, and lifting amounts are doubled (some PC races have this already with Powerful Build).(+) Its Hit Dice is d10 (but could be left to class as normal).+/- Enlarge spell would make huge; Guardian Soul would not enlarge; Ogre Form would not enlarge; Giant form would enlarge as usual.+/- If using feats, Mounted Combatant selected by another PC becomes more effective (easily banned by DM). But a large PC would have more trouble finding a suitable mount for herself. - Limited to 2 dimensions, a medium creature can be flanked by 8 medium creatures or 4 large creatures; a large creature can be flanked by 12 medium creatures or 6 large creatures.- It would have to squeeze through a 5' tunnel, hole, or door; it cannot squeeze through small openings (how big is that?).- It would be harder to hide, avoid line-of-sight effects, and find large-sized cover.- Purchasing large armor and weapons would likely be more expensive.So, balancing the plus/minus, it seems workable.</blockquote>

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