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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 194711" data-attributes="member: 177">reapersaurus:Dude, switch to decaf.  Or do whatever it is you do to relax. I didn't say anything about needing to know a majority of a group to be able to characterize it.  I would say that one would need to meet a statistically relevant subset.  Considering that Mr. Cashel mentioned two instances in which he seemed to have had minimal actual contact with the gamers, I'd say his sampling was not statistically relevant.  Your 2 experiences also probably fall short of being statistically meaningful, I'm sorry to say.  Painting a large group with a broad, negative brush based upon minimal experience with them is unfair.  Claiming that all LARP players are a specific way based upon 2 games is about as bad as deciding gaming is satanic based upon a couple of media-pathic instances.  While lesser in degree than the multitude of politically touchy instances of invalid stereotyping, it is based upon the same faulty mental process, and therefore just as dumb. As for my "absurd requirement" - you seem to like to jump to conclusions.  I think in the future, rather than telling people what they mean, you should ask what they mean.  You'd ruffle fewer feathers, and get to the truth more quickly.  Having made up your mind already, now not only do I have to clarify, but I have to defeat your preconceptions.I didn't say a person had to be wise to speak.  I said they had a responsibilty to speak wisely - meaning with a little forethought and common sense.   One can hold discourse and exchange ideas without acting like an expert on the topic when you aren't.  One can think before speaking.If Mr. Cashel had thought about how much (or little) his experience implied about other LARP palyers, he might have thought to include a phrase or two mentioning that his experience was limited.  If he had thought for a moment about how his own hobby has been stigmatized by ignorance, perhaps he'd have changed his words.  That would have been speaking wisely about a subject on which his personal knowledge was not great.[edits: a couple of spelling mistakes]</blockquote>

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