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<blockquote data-quote="Nebten" data-source="post: 5097683" data-attributes="member: 79391"><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'NicolasCocT-Blac'"><span style="color: #43024d"><span style="font-family: 'NicolasCocT-Blac'"><span style="color: #43024d"><span style="color: white">Here is the Third Hand feat from WotBS. I'm not saying one is better then the other, just another options.</span></span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'NicolasCocT-Blac'"><span style="color: #43024d"><span style="color: #43024d"></span></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'NicolasCocT-Blac'"><span style="color: #43024d"><span style="color: #43024d"></span></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'NicolasCocT-Blac'"><span style="color: #43024d"><span style="color: #43024d"><span style="font-family: 'NicolasCocT-Blac'">Third Hand [Fighter]</span></p></span></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'NicolasCocT-Blac'"><span style="color: #43024d"><span style="color: #43024d"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"></p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"><em><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-It'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-It'"><span style="font-size: 9px">You can use your whip as if it were a spare hand.</span></span></span></span></em></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-It'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-It'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-It'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span><strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px">Prerequisite: </span></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></span></strong><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px">Dex 13, Exotic Weapon Proficiency (whip), Weapon Finesse.</span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"><strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px">Benefit: </span></span></span></span></strong></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></span></strong></p> <p style="text-align: left"><strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></span></strong><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px">When armed with a whip, you are treated as having a free hand that can reach as far as your whip’s reach, which you can use to manipulate objects, throw weapons, or even grapple. Grappling with a whip works as it would with an unarmed strike, except that if successful you deal your whip’s damage instead of your unarmed damage. You must still enter your opponent’s square if you want to maintain the grapple, or you can simply use your additional whip attacks (if you have any) to make grapple checks, then release your opponent at the end of your turn. With a successful grapple check, you can perform any of the following actions.</span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"> </span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'">•• Deal your w</span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px">hip’s damage to your opponent.</span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><p style="text-align: left"></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></p> </p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"><p style="text-align: left"></p> </p><p></span><p style="text-align: left"><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'NicolasCocT-Blac'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'NicolasCocT-Blac'"><span style="font-size: 9px">•</span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px">• Move at half speed and bring your opponent with you (though he keeps the same relative distance to you).</span></span></span></span></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'NicolasCocT-Blac'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'NicolasCocT-Blac'"><span style="font-size: 9px">•</span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px">•Pull your opponent closer (up to an adjacent square).</span></span></span></span></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'">Then there is also this feat that can help clear things up too can could be an at level power:</span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'NicolasCocT-Blac'"><span style="color: #43024d"><span style="font-family: 'NicolasCocT-Blac'"><span style="color: #43024d"><p style="text-align: left">Melee Lash [General, Fighter]</p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span></span></span></span><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><p style="text-align: left">You can defend yourself in melee with a whip.</p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span></span></span></span><strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><p style="text-align: left">Prerequisite: </p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span></span></span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px">Exotic Weapon Proficiency (whip), base attack bonus +1.</span></span></span></span></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></span><strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><p style="text-align: left">Benefit: </p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span></span></span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px">When armed with a whip or other whip-like weapon, you threaten an area around you equal to your normal unarmed reach. You can make attacks of opportunity with the whip within that area. Additionally, you don’t incur attacks of opportunity by using a whip in combat, or by any other use of a whip, such as with the Third Hand feat.</span></span></span></span></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></span><strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><p style="text-align: left">Normal: </p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span></span></span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px">A whip has 15-foot reach, but does not threaten that area. Using a whip provokes an attack of opportunity, just as if you had used a ranged weapon.</span></span></span></span></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></span><strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><p style="text-align: left">Special: </p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span></span></span></span></strong><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Bold'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"></span><p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px">You can qualify for this feat if you are proficient in any whip-like weapon.</span></span></span></span></p></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"><span style="font-family: 'AJensonPro-Regular'"><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></span></span></span></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nebten, post: 5097683, member: 79391"] [LEFT][FONT=NicolasCocT-Blac][COLOR=#43024d][FONT=NicolasCocT-Blac][COLOR=#43024d][COLOR=white]Here is the Third Hand feat from WotBS. I'm not saying one is better then the other, just another options.[/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][COLOR=#43024d][/COLOR][/COLOR][/FONT][/LEFT][FONT=NicolasCocT-Blac][COLOR=#43024d][COLOR=#43024d] [LEFT][FONT=NicolasCocT-Blac]Third Hand [Fighter][/FONT] [/LEFT][/COLOR][LEFT][/left][/COLOR][LEFT][/left][/FONT][LEFT][I][FONT=AJensonPro-It][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-It][SIZE=1]You can use your whip as if it were a spare hand.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/I][FONT=AJensonPro-It][SIZE=1][/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-It][SIZE=1] [/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1]Prerequisite: [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1]Dex 13, Exotic Weapon Proficiency (whip), Weapon Finesse.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1] [LEFT][/LEFT][/SIZE][LEFT][/left][/FONT][LEFT][B][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1]Benefit: [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/LEFT][B][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1] [/size][/font][/size][/font][/b][/LEFT][B][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1] [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1]When armed with a whip, you are treated as having a free hand that can reach as far as your whip’s reach, which you can use to manipulate objects, throw weapons, or even grapple. Grappling with a whip works as it would with an unarmed strike, except that if successful you deal your whip’s damage instead of your unarmed damage. You must still enter your opponent’s square if you want to maintain the grapple, or you can simply use your additional whip attacks (if you have any) to make grapple checks, then release your opponent at the end of your turn. With a successful grapple check, you can perform any of the following actions.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1] [/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1] [SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular]•• Deal your w[/FONT][/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1]hip’s damage to your opponent.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][LEFT] [LEFT][/LEFT][/LEFT][/SIZE][LEFT][LEFT][/left][/left][/FONT][LEFT][LEFT][FONT=NicolasCocT-Blac][SIZE=1][FONT=NicolasCocT-Blac][SIZE=1]•[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1]• Move at half speed and bring your opponent with you (though he keeps the same relative distance to you).[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1] [LEFT][/LEFT][/SIZE][LEFT][/left][/FONT][LEFT][FONT=NicolasCocT-Blac][SIZE=1][FONT=NicolasCocT-Blac][SIZE=1]•[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1]•Pull your opponent closer (up to an adjacent square).[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT] [LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular]Then there is also this feat that can help clear things up too can could be an at level power:[/FONT][/FONT] [/LEFT] [FONT=NicolasCocT-Blac][COLOR=#43024d][FONT=NicolasCocT-Blac][COLOR=#43024d][LEFT]Melee Lash [General, Fighter][/LEFT] [/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][LEFT]You can defend yourself in melee with a whip.[/LEFT] [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][LEFT]Prerequisite: [/LEFT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/left][/FONT][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/left][/FONT][LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1]Exotic Weapon Proficiency (whip), base attack bonus +1.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1] [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][LEFT]Benefit: [/LEFT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/left][/FONT][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/left][/FONT][LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1]When armed with a whip or other whip-like weapon, you threaten an area around you equal to your normal unarmed reach. You can make attacks of opportunity with the whip within that area. Additionally, you don’t incur attacks of opportunity by using a whip in combat, or by any other use of a whip, such as with the Third Hand feat.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1] [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][LEFT]Normal: [/LEFT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/left][/FONT][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/left][/FONT][LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1]A whip has 15-foot reach, but does not threaten that area. Using a whip provokes an attack of opportunity, just as if you had used a ranged weapon.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1] [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][LEFT]Special: [/LEFT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Bold][SIZE=1][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/left][/FONT][LEFT][/left][/SIZE][LEFT][/left][/FONT][LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1]You can qualify for this feat if you are proficient in any whip-like weapon.[/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/LEFT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1] [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=AJensonPro-Regular][SIZE=1][/SIZE][/FONT] [/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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