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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 6952407" data-attributes="member: 6785785">It sounds to me like everyone had fun, so that's the most important thing. The encounter seems mostly to have been so one sided for a couple of reasons. First, everything seemed to work out for the PCs; every spell and stunning fist worked because saves were failed. The monsters barely got a chance to even really do much. But the dice are the dice and sometimes that's what happens. It could have just as easily worked the other way.But beyond the dice, it does seem like some of the monster abilities were ignored or not utilized anywhere near to full effect. For instance, the diviner could have likely avoided the stun for himself or the Druid by swapping a die roll out. If the monk typically stuns foes round after round, allowing his flurry and the ranger's arrows to then rip targets to shreds, then letting that first stun effect happen when you have a way to avoid it seems a poor choice. I mean, if you have a group of players who have their tactics down to such a science, then it would make sense to use the monsters in the same way. I mean, there's nothing wrong with an easy win against a tough foe now and again...but this example seems to be an outlier, and has at least as much to do with how it was run than in how the system functions.For me, I'd throw such forces up against my high level group. And I expect they'd win....but they wouldn't get out unscathed, that's for sure. A battle doesn't need to be either a curb stomp by the PCs or a TPK. There are middle options. Personally, I wouldn't want such a group of enemies to be so soundly beaten. If the goal is to say "look what we managed to do against foes that are so powerful" I can kind of understand that....but doesn't such an achievement lose its meaning when the monsters aren't played to be the threats that they should be?</blockquote>

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