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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 6956409" data-attributes="member: 6785785">Optional = all bets are off? I don't think anyone's really gone to that extreme.Optional = play is impacted. Yes, certainly.I don't think that anyone is saying that the designers are without flaw. But neither are DMs. And in the situation you described, I find it hard to fault the designers for the way things went down. I think that you erred in how you handled the scenario. Now, that's not me saying that you couldn't have fixed it...the way you explain things it seems that you were okay with the way things turned out. But I don't think you should attribute the results to the system.I said in a previous post that I don't really use the CR system. I think that most experienced DMs would be better off without it. You designed an encounter that according to that system (although I think some adjustments were in line that were not made) was incredibly deadly. But you knew it was not going to be that deadly. Maybe you thought it would be tougher than it turned out to be...but I won't for one second buy that you created an encounter that far beyond the guidelines without knowing that it wouldn't quite play out that way. So since you know this already, why not just ditch the system? You've outgrown it, I think.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 6956409, member: 6785785"] Optional = all bets are off? I don't think anyone's really gone to that extreme. Optional = play is impacted. Yes, certainly. I don't think that anyone is saying that the designers are without flaw. But neither are DMs. And in the situation you described, I find it hard to fault the designers for the way things went down. I think that you erred in how you handled the scenario. Now, that's not me saying that you couldn't have fixed it...the way you explain things it seems that you were okay with the way things turned out. But I don't think you should attribute the results to the system. I said in a previous post that I don't really use the CR system. I think that most experienced DMs would be better off without it. You designed an encounter that according to that system (although I think some adjustments were in line that were not made) was incredibly deadly. But you knew it was not going to be that deadly. Maybe you thought it would be tougher than it turned out to be...but I won't for one second buy that you created an encounter that far beyond the guidelines without knowing that it wouldn't quite play out that way. So since you know this already, why not just ditch the system? You've outgrown it, I think. [/QUOTE]

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