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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 6977605" data-attributes="member: 6785785">Well, I said &quot;defeated&quot; and you said &quot;survived&quot;....so there is a difference. My point in this matter is not to be contentious or to imply that anyone who plays differently isn't playing in an immersive way. Instead, I am saying that the more immersive you play, the less meta-gaming will affect how the players choose to play their characters. One of the ways I have achieved a more immersive game is to create encounters that are not meant to be resolved through combat....ones where if it does come to a fight, the PCs will lose. I do it just often enough to keep the possibility in my players' minds, and because they know it's possible, they approach every potential combat with this in mind. I want my players to make decisions more on story elements than game elements. So a party of 5 PCs would determine a lone guard in front of a cell is something they can easily deal with, and that's fine, but the same party of 5 PCs determining 400 orcs to not be a threat is what I want to avoid.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 6977605, member: 6785785"] Well, I said "defeated" and you said "survived"....so there is a difference. My point in this matter is not to be contentious or to imply that anyone who plays differently isn't playing in an immersive way. Instead, I am saying that the more immersive you play, the less meta-gaming will affect how the players choose to play their characters. One of the ways I have achieved a more immersive game is to create encounters that are not meant to be resolved through combat....ones where if it does come to a fight, the PCs will lose. I do it just often enough to keep the possibility in my players' minds, and because they know it's possible, they approach every potential combat with this in mind. I want my players to make decisions more on story elements than game elements. So a party of 5 PCs would determine a lone guard in front of a cell is something they can easily deal with, and that's fine, but the same party of 5 PCs determining 400 orcs to not be a threat is what I want to avoid. [/QUOTE]

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