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<blockquote data-quote="Scrivener of Doom" data-source="post: 6358387" data-attributes="member: 87576"><p>PHB1 and MM1 benefit from the updates/errata; in the case of MM1, I would almost say it's mandatory.</p><p></p><p>Avoid any adventures with Mike Mearls and/or Bruce Cordell listed in the credits. They simply did not grok 4E and their names appear on the worst of the crud that WotC produced (and it is crud).</p><p></p><p>A rather good Heroic Tier adventure path is <em>The Slaying Stone</em>, <em>Reavers of Harkenwold</em>, and <em>Madness of Gardmore Abbey</em> and you can throw in <em>Cairn of the Winter King</em> and <em>Orcs of Stonefang Pass</em> for some variety.</p><p></p><p>LFR is <a href="http://www.livingforgottenrealms.com" target="_blank">Living Forgotten Realms</a>. That was the FR-based organised play programme. The link will take you too 200+ adventures ranging from really poor quality (I mean, really, really, really poor) to some of the most epic adventurers ever published for D&D. And, yes, they are all free and legal to download.</p><p></p><p>Essentials was a half-assed attempt by WotC to reset 4E to make it a bit simpler but it really was half-assed. Some good products came out of it - the two <em>Monster Vaults</em>, in particular, are superb - but it was just some corporate wankery to disguise the fact that WotC had lost interest in 4E and 5E was on its way. Nevertheless, if you can, get the first of the <em>Monster Vaults</em> and pretend your MM1 simply does not exist. Oh, and <em>Reavers of Harkenwold</em> came with the DM's Kit. That is probably the best adventure produced for 4E and one of the best of any edition (and so it Madness at Gardmore Abbey).</p><p></p><p>PS: Welcome to ENWorld! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scrivener of Doom, post: 6358387, member: 87576"] PHB1 and MM1 benefit from the updates/errata; in the case of MM1, I would almost say it's mandatory. Avoid any adventures with Mike Mearls and/or Bruce Cordell listed in the credits. They simply did not grok 4E and their names appear on the worst of the crud that WotC produced (and it is crud). A rather good Heroic Tier adventure path is [I]The Slaying Stone[/I], [I]Reavers of Harkenwold[/I], and [I]Madness of Gardmore Abbey[/I] and you can throw in [I]Cairn of the Winter King[/I] and [I]Orcs of Stonefang Pass[/I] for some variety. LFR is [URL="http://www.livingforgottenrealms.com"]Living Forgotten Realms[/URL]. That was the FR-based organised play programme. The link will take you too 200+ adventures ranging from really poor quality (I mean, really, really, really poor) to some of the most epic adventurers ever published for D&D. And, yes, they are all free and legal to download. Essentials was a half-assed attempt by WotC to reset 4E to make it a bit simpler but it really was half-assed. Some good products came out of it - the two [I]Monster Vaults[/I], in particular, are superb - but it was just some corporate wankery to disguise the fact that WotC had lost interest in 4E and 5E was on its way. Nevertheless, if you can, get the first of the [I]Monster Vaults[/I] and pretend your MM1 simply does not exist. Oh, and [I]Reavers of Harkenwold[/I] came with the DM's Kit. That is probably the best adventure produced for 4E and one of the best of any edition (and so it Madness at Gardmore Abbey). PS: Welcome to ENWorld! :) [/QUOTE]
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