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<blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 7700529" data-attributes="member: 5100"><p>It was entirely flavor-related. I've never been able to see how a border patrol/survivalist became tightly coupled to TWF. I don't really object to it as an option (the 3.5 ban was mainly inertia), but to have it suddenly pop up as a defining feature of the class was very bizarre. I also didn't care for the 2E Ranger becoming, essentially, a Druidic Paladin. I always liked that the Ranger got some Magic-User spells and took that as an indication that they earned all their spells through study and practice, not through any sort of religious/spiritual connection to nature or the old gods.</p><p></p><p>Really, the 2E Ranger was not a descendant of the 1E Ranger. It had some similar themes -- a wilderness fighter who could cast spells and was good against humanoids. It also changed quite a bit -- TWF, no arcana, lower hit points, lost some of the "guardian" aspect. I like the 1E Ranger and dislike the 2E Ranger and everything that inherits from it. I hadn't actually realized the disconnect until you asked your question, though. I doubt I'll ever be able to give a Ranger class a fair shake. The 5E version might be a good reconciliation of the 1E and 2E versions, though -- with the simple change of using the 2d6 Hit Dice from the UA version (I also liked Ambuscade, flavor-wise, but toned it down to a free bonus action).</p><p></p><p>That said, I loathe Drizzt and the Realms. I think my disdain of the 2E Ranger probably fuels my ire at Drizzt more than the other way around, though. I'd probably view Drizzt in much the same way as I do Elminster (a pathetic, poorly-written, but ultimately dismiss-able, Mary Sue) if he wasn't also iconic for the 2E Ranger.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercule, post: 7700529, member: 5100"] It was entirely flavor-related. I've never been able to see how a border patrol/survivalist became tightly coupled to TWF. I don't really object to it as an option (the 3.5 ban was mainly inertia), but to have it suddenly pop up as a defining feature of the class was very bizarre. I also didn't care for the 2E Ranger becoming, essentially, a Druidic Paladin. I always liked that the Ranger got some Magic-User spells and took that as an indication that they earned all their spells through study and practice, not through any sort of religious/spiritual connection to nature or the old gods. Really, the 2E Ranger was not a descendant of the 1E Ranger. It had some similar themes -- a wilderness fighter who could cast spells and was good against humanoids. It also changed quite a bit -- TWF, no arcana, lower hit points, lost some of the "guardian" aspect. I like the 1E Ranger and dislike the 2E Ranger and everything that inherits from it. I hadn't actually realized the disconnect until you asked your question, though. I doubt I'll ever be able to give a Ranger class a fair shake. The 5E version might be a good reconciliation of the 1E and 2E versions, though -- with the simple change of using the 2d6 Hit Dice from the UA version (I also liked Ambuscade, flavor-wise, but toned it down to a free bonus action). That said, I loathe Drizzt and the Realms. I think my disdain of the 2E Ranger probably fuels my ire at Drizzt more than the other way around, though. I'd probably view Drizzt in much the same way as I do Elminster (a pathetic, poorly-written, but ultimately dismiss-able, Mary Sue) if he wasn't also iconic for the 2E Ranger. [/QUOTE]
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