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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8984267" data-attributes="member: 6877472">Unless a magic item specifically states that it can be destroyed, such as a Necklace of Missiles, or mishandling of the items in a Bag of Holding, I assume enchanted items are far more durable than normal materials.You have to ask yourself what is gained by taking away the player's magic items.  If you feel it would balance the game, you should have a discussion with your players about that, rather than have them removed by what is in effect, DM fiat.If you think it would make the game more fun, I would again, go to your players with your reasoning as to why.If you have a Barbarian using Gauntlets of Ogre Power, one of two things would result from their loss.  One, nothing major, if they have a Strength of 18.  Two, a nerf to their attack and damage with melee weapons by reducing them to a Strength of less than 18.  For a class that is primarily a melee damage dealer, this can be annoying/crippling.I used to play with a DM who would occasionally freak out about how many magic items we had, would contrive of a way to take them away from us, we'd find new ones, and the cycle could continue.  It was very annoying because it felt like we were being punished for something that wasn't under our control- if you don't want magic items in your game, just be up front with that when you give your elevator pitch for the game.The DMG tells us the default expectation for the game is "The World is Magical" on page 9.  It's ok to change that, but you need to adjust yours and the players expectations in advance.If your goal is to make players worry about their items being potentially destroyed, as to make them more cautious, then you shouldn't take them away if there was nothing the players could do to protect them other than stay home and not adventure (and saying "well, they could have made a saving throw" doesn't count!  They really have to have had the chance to make an informed decision, and a choice that isn't "let's just go home").I'll note even destroying all of their non-magical gear, no matter how logical it is (falling into lava) is extremely harsh.  What are they supposed to do without armor?  Weapons?  Tools? Rations?  Spell Focuses and material components?How do you expect them to continue in the campaign from here?As a further question, you already made the situation far more dangerous than it was written to be by choosing to inflict maximum lava damage.  What is served by adding insult to injury?I mean if it's "realism", then falling into lava should be an automatic death, go make a new character!</blockquote>

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