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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 4083392" data-attributes="member: 14159">What do you do if for some reason a PC has an ability (class ability, magic item, spell, whatever) that grants them fire resistance (or the equivalent 4e ability) but not immunity, are they skill killed instantly?  Are you still killed instantly unless you're completely immune to fire damage?  Does the RAW acknowledge that fire-immune creatures can live in lava, or will we be hearing about DM's who literally reading the RAW have lava flows kill fire elementals?I mean, I understand that immersion in lava should be fatal to mortal man, that's what the 20d6 of fire damage in 3.x is supposed to do, kill you unless you're truly superhuman.  If for some reason you have enough HP to survive 20d6 (70 HP on average) then you're probably far superior to mortal man.   Just like terminal velocity falling, 20d6 is supposed to be "you die unless of freak circumstances or insanely heroic fortitude and luck".I'd actually been thinking of this all day, of how if you treat lava as you-die-no-save, it seems like the RBDM trick of 4e right out of the box to find ways to drop PC's into lava (or have lava dropped onto them) to instantly obliterate them.It is amusing that they removed "save or die" effects from the game, but they found a way to add a no-save instant-death effect.</blockquote>