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Lava - What is it?
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<blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 3447813" data-attributes="member: 35788"><p>Well, yeah. If we apply the common physical laws that prevent things like ... oh, say ... magic in the first place? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem with the common sense argument is that if you use common sense to make a ruling that involves more than just a situational explanation (like "the lava freezes over for 1 round and then the party only takes 1/3 of the heat damage" instead of just "the lava freezes") is now you have to remember that common sense ruling details. Personally, I don't find anything particularily common sense about 1/3 the damage as opposed to 1/2 the damage or even 3/10 the damage. Not trying to be picky, but I find that common sense rulings are best left vague.</p><p></p><p>Common sense would indicate that it doesn't work. That's the common sense ruling.</p><p></p><p>By the rules, I am torn to know if it actually works. Because in my world, lava is both earth and fire. Thus, it should be able to target the earth part.</p><p></p><p>However, the specific example seems to indicate that this spell was intended to not be all that powerful. Making iceburgs in water is much different than making stepping stones in lava. Given their example, I would easily say that the common sense ruling is "Sorry, spell fails because it cannot affect fire."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think anyone actually said that lave is an elemental here. What people did do is use the resources to indicate that elementals made out of lava are considered both fire and earth. But nobody ever claimed that all lava is an elemental!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nonlethal Force, post: 3447813, member: 35788"] Well, yeah. If we apply the common physical laws that prevent things like ... oh, say ... magic in the first place? :D ;) The problem with the common sense argument is that if you use common sense to make a ruling that involves more than just a situational explanation (like "the lava freezes over for 1 round and then the party only takes 1/3 of the heat damage" instead of just "the lava freezes") is now you have to remember that common sense ruling details. Personally, I don't find anything particularily common sense about 1/3 the damage as opposed to 1/2 the damage or even 3/10 the damage. Not trying to be picky, but I find that common sense rulings are best left vague. Common sense would indicate that it doesn't work. That's the common sense ruling. By the rules, I am torn to know if it actually works. Because in my world, lava is both earth and fire. Thus, it should be able to target the earth part. However, the specific example seems to indicate that this spell was intended to not be all that powerful. Making iceburgs in water is much different than making stepping stones in lava. Given their example, I would easily say that the common sense ruling is "Sorry, spell fails because it cannot affect fire." I don't think anyone actually said that lave is an elemental here. What people did do is use the resources to indicate that elementals made out of lava are considered both fire and earth. But nobody ever claimed that all lava is an elemental! [/QUOTE]
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