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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lurks-no-More" data-source="post: 3969093" data-attributes="member: 8226">I have to admit that I like the idea of a primordial Law-Chaos struggle as in Planescape... but I also admit that PS is the only (A)D&D setting, where it was presented as a meaningful and important part of the world (universe, multiversum, whatever). I've used to be more supportive of the L-C parts of alignments, but my opinions have been slowly changing.In practice, almost everyone can agree to a rough description of the Good-Evil axis. Good is altruistic, seeks to lessen suffering, protects the helpless and the innocent, etc., while Evil is selfish, ignores or actively increases suffering, cares not a whit for the innocents, and so on.Law-Chaos-axis... it's a lot more troublesome, because the descriptions of either end combine both external (respect / disrespect of tradition and external authority) and internal (strong personal code of conduct / flexibility, adaptation and fluidity of conduct) aspects, leading to tons of arguments.As Wyrmshadows has pointed out, the original Moorcockian L-C axis had both ends as destructive, with a dynamic balance between order and change as the desirable state. Combining this with the G-E axis, where most beings will consider one end as the desirable state (which end varies), and the neutral position in between is one of passivity, leads to difficulties.</blockquote>