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Message: <blockquote data-quote="James Jacobs" data-source="post: 3688197" data-attributes="member: 23937">The demon/elemental conflict of the Age Before Ages where the Wind Dukes took up arms against the obyriths of the Abyss is an excellent example of the Law vs. Chaos angle of things in D&D. It's a good example. But a better example is the Blood War. There's been PLENTY of prodcuts focusing on that, especially in the good old Planescape days.With the obyriths themselves, I tried to make them more a force of chaos than evil. Sure, they're bad news, but they're more about the Chaos than the Evil. Which is why all obyriths have DR lawful, and why they get spell like abilities like cloak of chaos rather than the evil versions of the spells. The Abyssal Heritor feats in Fiendish Codex I are another place where I focused on the law vs. chaos angle a little bit. The fun thing there, of course, is that it allows PCs to have Abyssal-themed elements without being forced into the Bad Guy PC role.</blockquote>