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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Evilhalfling" data-source="post: 1812966" data-attributes="member: 16991">hmm.  My ideas seem to revolve around the interactions of nations rather than outsiders.  I like the Rome vs. Barbarians analogy - also present in the old hickman and Wies series rose of he prophit.  You can have a LG/N nation take over and civilize a CE nation.  Teaching them to stop worshiping demons etc.  Then slowly twist the situation to show the strong individuallist streak in the conqured people, and their generally honorable nature.  The demon hadnt revealed his true nature, so there were many CG/N followers in addition to the CE priests.   As the weaker party they try terrorism and gremlining the larger lawful countires government - burning libraries to reduce magical superiority, but making sure the people got out.   Chaotic Heros challenging PC's to duels -    Chaotic good outsiders are mostly pranksters or am I remembering this wrong?  Im not sure I would want to run them as the chief villians.  I never got the hang of Slaads - there was a thread about them earlier, how mostly they come out evil beserkers.  I had some in a recent game that decied to kill the pcs and put them in a wine press to see if they really were 90% water - when the press was destroyed in battle they sat down and pouted.  They definatley came across as insane- but as creatures of chaos? Can creatures of chaos come up with and execute long term plans?</blockquote>