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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ysgarran" data-source="post: 4920471" data-attributes="member: 709">You are getting at what could make a LG society actually interesting have a game in.   Who gets to decide when a law 'goes over the line' into something that is not LG?  Even if clerics have a direct line to their gods you still have to rely on their subjective interpretations (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon_effect" target="_blank">Rashomon Effect</a>).  Even LG gods would differ amongst themselves about what is best for the society as a whole.Lets say the god of Justice set down the laws on day one.   Either you have a set of laws that are so overly exacting as to become quickly out of date or you need lawyers (or clerics) to interpret how the laws apply to day to day life.  When you bring people in to the equation you bring in fallibility and room for errors.An example that comes to mind is a prohibition against eating the Fugu fish because it is poisonous.   Perfectly rational, protects people from killing themselves, who would argue against such a law?  If I perfect a way of removing the poisonous gland and making the fish edible that law still remains on the book.You do keep bringing up 1984 and I was wondering if a LG society might start demanding people use LGSpeak (i.e. Newspeak).   Before you dismiss that out of hand think about this from wikipedia:  "The linguistic relativity principle (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapir%E2%80%93Whorf_hypothesis" target="_blank">Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis) </a>is the idea that the varying cultural concepts and categories inherent in different languages affect the cognitive classification of the experienced world in such a way that speakers of different languages think and behave differently because of it."  If LGSpeak would lead people down the path of good then why not have laws mandating its use?I would find it entertaining for a group of adventurers heading into to town and asking "Where is the nearest fence who can handle stolen diamonds?" translates into "Where is a badman who does bad things?"Now I'm not sure if such a society would ever exist outside of the outer-planes but it is fun to play around with.To clarify things a bit.  Do people believe that that there is some unvarying standard by which 'Lawful Good' can be measured by?  I suppose that could be supported by the existence of the LG gods but I still say that it runs smack into human nature. Ysgarran.</blockquote>

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