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Lay on hands and temporary charisma boost
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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 2038286" data-attributes="member: 224"><p>LOL <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> </p><p></p><p>"Smartness" aside: It's clear enough that a Cha boost gives you extra lay on hands, turning attempts, etc. (I'm not sure why Endur keeps sticking to his incorrect interp....but Rule Zero works, I guess.) What's not clear is what happens when the bonus goes away...and then comes back again, for whatever reason.</p><p></p><p>That is to say, putting on a Cloak of Charisma and then taking it off is effectively equivalent to casting <em>Eagle's Splendor</em> and then having the duration run out. So casting <em>Eagle's Splendor</em> multiple times is the same as taking the cloak on and off, on and off, etc. The rules make no distinction between these sources....indeed they are both called enhancement bonuses and don't stack. </p><p></p><p>I think it's silly to allow a Paladin to get extra healing multiple times by taking the Cloak on and off multiple times. There are no explicit rules for this, other than the "different sources" rule...and even that takes some twisting to make it come out right. Still, it seems reasonable to say "keep track of how much you lay-on-hands, and you can never exceed your (boosted) Cha max during a day". If you want to keep track of this as negative healing points, so be it. </p><p></p><p>Anything else just looks silly. And as the Minister of Silly Walks is out for the day, we'll have none of that here! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nail, post: 2038286, member: 224"] LOL :lol: "Smartness" aside: It's clear enough that a Cha boost gives you extra lay on hands, turning attempts, etc. (I'm not sure why Endur keeps sticking to his incorrect interp....but Rule Zero works, I guess.) What's not clear is what happens when the bonus goes away...and then comes back again, for whatever reason. That is to say, putting on a Cloak of Charisma and then taking it off is effectively equivalent to casting [i]Eagle's Splendor[/i] and then having the duration run out. So casting [i]Eagle's Splendor[/i] multiple times is the same as taking the cloak on and off, on and off, etc. The rules make no distinction between these sources....indeed they are both called enhancement bonuses and don't stack. I think it's silly to allow a Paladin to get extra healing multiple times by taking the Cloak on and off multiple times. There are no explicit rules for this, other than the "different sources" rule...and even that takes some twisting to make it come out right. Still, it seems reasonable to say "keep track of how much you lay-on-hands, and you can never exceed your (boosted) Cha max during a day". If you want to keep track of this as negative healing points, so be it. Anything else just looks silly. And as the Minister of Silly Walks is out for the day, we'll have none of that here! :p [/QUOTE]
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