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<blockquote data-quote="Bat" data-source="post: 2700038" data-attributes="member: 37234"><p>To be completly honest, if he had said at the beginning: "No Shifting classes, I do not like them because I think they are too powerful", I would not have cared. I would have said: "OK, fine. No shifting classes." Whether you choose to believe my statement or not is up to you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>When we first started playing this summer, I was not playing a non-core class; I started by playing a Barbarian w/no PRCs. Over the course of the summer, before restarting his game, the DM complained about 2 things to me.</p><p></p><p>The first one was how good I was at combat. At that point, our group was comprised of my Barbarian, the 3.0 Shifter, a Rouge/Shadowdancer/Custome Prestige Class the DM allowed, a Druid and a bard. The Shifter was the only one that could keep up with me in sheer damage-dealing ability, and the DM was having a hard time throwing enemies at us. He wanted to make them powerful enough to survive more than 2 or 3 rounds, but if he did that, the Rouge, Bard and Druid couldn't stand up to them very well. I suggested to him that he use 1 or 2 strong guys that the Shifter and I could stand up to, followed by 2 or 3 lower-level cohorts the others could go toe-to-toe with. He never took me up on the advice.</p><p></p><p>The second thing he complained about was the fact that the group was lacking an arcane spell caster. He was not speaking of the Bard - he was referring to a Sorcerer or Wizard type.</p><p></p><p>Given those two things, when he restarted his campagin, I flat-out asked him: "Would you prefer me to keep playing the Barbarian, or would you like me to play an arcane caster?" He said he would prefer me to go with an arcane caster, and I said I was probably going with the Sorcerer, at which point he showed me the Warmage class, which I didnt even know about until that point. I decided I liked the Warmage, and went with it.</p><p></p><p>Now, with my new character, I decided to be one level of Monk for the HP, the AC bonus, and the saving throw bonus. My other 13 levels were comprised of Warmage. I also took the Aestic Mage feat from Complete Adventurer which, among other things, allows me to, if I am allowed to add my wisdom bonus to AC (like an unarmored, unencumbered monk), I can instead add my Charisma bonus to AC. Since Warmages use Charisma to cast spells like Sorecerers do, this was obviously a good feat for me.</p><p></p><p>Before play started, I finished that character and took it to the DM and said: "I did this, and took the Aestic Mage feat, which gives me a pretty high AC. Do you think my character is too powerful? Do you want me to take the away the monk level and the Aestic Mage feat and go all Warmage to make things more balanced?" He said he did not, and that my character was fine.</p><p></p><p>He also told my best friend that the Shifter PRC was fine, and then changed it. Despite the fact that it might seem otherwise, the changes to the PRC are not what I care about; I care about the fact that he did this at all. What happens when he thinks I am overpowered? If he decides one day that I have too much AC, I not only lose a feat, I have a totally useless level of monk. <em>That</em> is what I am concerned about, and that is why I came here looking for ways to avoid that happening.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bat, post: 2700038, member: 37234"] To be completly honest, if he had said at the beginning: "No Shifting classes, I do not like them because I think they are too powerful", I would not have cared. I would have said: "OK, fine. No shifting classes." Whether you choose to believe my statement or not is up to you. When we first started playing this summer, I was not playing a non-core class; I started by playing a Barbarian w/no PRCs. Over the course of the summer, before restarting his game, the DM complained about 2 things to me. The first one was how good I was at combat. At that point, our group was comprised of my Barbarian, the 3.0 Shifter, a Rouge/Shadowdancer/Custome Prestige Class the DM allowed, a Druid and a bard. The Shifter was the only one that could keep up with me in sheer damage-dealing ability, and the DM was having a hard time throwing enemies at us. He wanted to make them powerful enough to survive more than 2 or 3 rounds, but if he did that, the Rouge, Bard and Druid couldn't stand up to them very well. I suggested to him that he use 1 or 2 strong guys that the Shifter and I could stand up to, followed by 2 or 3 lower-level cohorts the others could go toe-to-toe with. He never took me up on the advice. The second thing he complained about was the fact that the group was lacking an arcane spell caster. He was not speaking of the Bard - he was referring to a Sorcerer or Wizard type. Given those two things, when he restarted his campagin, I flat-out asked him: "Would you prefer me to keep playing the Barbarian, or would you like me to play an arcane caster?" He said he would prefer me to go with an arcane caster, and I said I was probably going with the Sorcerer, at which point he showed me the Warmage class, which I didnt even know about until that point. I decided I liked the Warmage, and went with it. Now, with my new character, I decided to be one level of Monk for the HP, the AC bonus, and the saving throw bonus. My other 13 levels were comprised of Warmage. I also took the Aestic Mage feat from Complete Adventurer which, among other things, allows me to, if I am allowed to add my wisdom bonus to AC (like an unarmored, unencumbered monk), I can instead add my Charisma bonus to AC. Since Warmages use Charisma to cast spells like Sorecerers do, this was obviously a good feat for me. Before play started, I finished that character and took it to the DM and said: "I did this, and took the Aestic Mage feat, which gives me a pretty high AC. Do you think my character is too powerful? Do you want me to take the away the monk level and the Aestic Mage feat and go all Warmage to make things more balanced?" He said he did not, and that my character was fine. He also told my best friend that the Shifter PRC was fine, and then changed it. Despite the fact that it might seem otherwise, the changes to the PRC are not what I care about; I care about the fact that he did this at all. What happens when he thinks I am overpowered? If he decides one day that I have too much AC, I not only lose a feat, I have a totally useless level of monk. [I]That[/I] is what I am concerned about, and that is why I came here looking for ways to avoid that happening. [/QUOTE]
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