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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 6598840" data-attributes="member: 6788736">Oh for sure. A villian that does evil acts is (objectively) of evil alignment (depsite his own subjective views or justifications of his own morality). On death, he goes to the lower plane of Hell (or wherever) that corresponds to his actions and actual alignment, regardless of why he committed his evil deeds, or the justifications he used for them. He detects as evil, and so forth. This may come as a shock to the person in question, and he may even be in denial of this (blaming faulty detection magic, or justifying it in other ways).Self delusion is a powerful force in real life; its no different in a fantasy world. The objective reality of a characters alignment may very well not reflect the characters own subjective views on his own morality, or the justifications for his actions. The vilest of villian may view himself as a good person and vice versa.Just like the most evil and tyrannical of governments or people can (and do) good things, does not make them good. Nazi Germany may very well have implemented free health care, social security and opened orphanges (only for the 'German race' of course), but in the overall scheme of things, are still considered an evil tyrannical government.Just like Hitler thought he was doing the right thing, and acting for 'the greater good' in the face of what he percieved to be 'an evil global conspiracy against the Arayan race', an evil villian can justify almost anything in the name of 'the greater good'. Persecution, war, murder - even genocide. In fact very few (if any) genocidal people view thier actions as evil; its almost always the opposite.Human beings are far more complex than nine seperate discreet alignments and an infinite variations of moral codes and codes of behaviour exist within the 9 DnD alignments. Look at the behaviour of the PC in totality to determine his overall alignment.Consider a person who is the foulest of villians, with no respect for authority and no empathy for the suffering of people other than his close relatives. He would murder an innocent child with no mercy. However he treats his own children and family with respect, love and dignity, prepared to sacrifice everyting he has (even his own life) for his own children. Indeed he may be repulsed by his own actions, feeling them only necessary to protect his family from even viler monsters and in pursit of a 'greater good'.While he may have a noble intention, and doesnt view himself as an evil person, he is CE in alignment.</blockquote>

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