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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 2888141" data-attributes="member: 710"><p>The loyality of his members are not to him, but to his post or rank. </p><p>As you said, they are lawful, but that also means that he has to act lawful (according to the laws or philosphy of the order). </p><p>It is also possible for lawful people to work behind your back (think of lawful evil associates especially, but also lawful good people trying to make the best of it). They will not openly challenge the Monk, but they might still have their own agenda. </p><p></p><p>Though this is only a problem if the monk somehow abuses the order for non-orderly tasks. </p><p></p><p>Rulewise, he doesn't get followers or cohorts this way. Benefits of Leadership usually include that you don't have to take special care of your followers and cohorts. They don't need money or equipment (or take care of it themself). </p><p>Any order member following the character will recievehis share of XP(if he is contributing in encounters and so on) and possibly demand a share of the treasure, though that depends more on the specifics of the order (it is likely that a share of treasure can be denied). </p><p>If the order members don't gain XP during encounters, they will most likely get no at all (means they will fall back over time). </p><p></p><p>Leadership not only guarantees a loyal cohort, it also guarantees that he will advance with the party. </p><p></p><p>There might be also some baggage associated with becoming the leader of an existing order (instead of effectively founding one with Leadership) - existing contracts or rituals that the order has to fulfill, obligations to pay and so on. </p><p></p><p>Interesting oppertunity: </p><p>You could invent a "Monk Monastery Leader" Prestige Class, that grants Leadership-like benefits and still gives some of the Monk advancements, if the player wants to explore his new role more (and doesn't want to wait for his next feat, or simply cannot afford to lose a feat...)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 2888141, member: 710"] The loyality of his members are not to him, but to his post or rank. As you said, they are lawful, but that also means that he has to act lawful (according to the laws or philosphy of the order). It is also possible for lawful people to work behind your back (think of lawful evil associates especially, but also lawful good people trying to make the best of it). They will not openly challenge the Monk, but they might still have their own agenda. Though this is only a problem if the monk somehow abuses the order for non-orderly tasks. Rulewise, he doesn't get followers or cohorts this way. Benefits of Leadership usually include that you don't have to take special care of your followers and cohorts. They don't need money or equipment (or take care of it themself). Any order member following the character will recievehis share of XP(if he is contributing in encounters and so on) and possibly demand a share of the treasure, though that depends more on the specifics of the order (it is likely that a share of treasure can be denied). If the order members don't gain XP during encounters, they will most likely get no at all (means they will fall back over time). Leadership not only guarantees a loyal cohort, it also guarantees that he will advance with the party. There might be also some baggage associated with becoming the leader of an existing order (instead of effectively founding one with Leadership) - existing contracts or rituals that the order has to fulfill, obligations to pay and so on. Interesting oppertunity: You could invent a "Monk Monastery Leader" Prestige Class, that grants Leadership-like benefits and still gives some of the Monk advancements, if the player wants to explore his new role more (and doesn't want to wait for his next feat, or simply cannot afford to lose a feat...) [/QUOTE]
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